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Voters Souring on Obama As Never Before ( Comments on the latest Polls and others Observations )
nymag.com ^ | 8/20/08 | Dan Amira Early and Often

Posted on 08/20/2008 9:40:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Though Obama's veep selection is imminent, he seems to be "Biden his time" (ha!) until later in the week to make the announcement. But with a slew of recent polls showing his lead against John McCain diminished or gone completely, some big news might be just what Obama needs. An LAT/Bloomberg poll has Obama up by just two points, while a Zogby poll released this morning shows McCain — yes, McCain — with a five-point lead. We've noted before how cyclic, ephemeral swings in the polls tend to send political observers into a frenzy. But these polls are part of a longer, more ominous trend for Obama. His momentum has vanished, the race has drawn to a dead heat, and Republicans are, maybe for the first time, showing some real optimism.

• Chuck Todd and friends contend that "there is no longer this widespread belief among the wise guys and gals of both parties that we're all just sitting around waiting for this race to break in Obama's direction." The Obama campaign can't afford to make mistakes, and the McCain campaign "thinks it can win," which "wasn’t the case a few months ago." [First Read/MSNBC]

• Nate Silver proclaims that "we are getting to the point where it would be hard to describe the election as anything other than 'too close to call'" (and that was before the new Zogby poll). [FiveThirtyEight]

• Michael Goodwin speculates that the media's "fawning coverage" of Obama, which the McCain campaign has highlighted with "The One," its nickname for the Democrat, may have caused voter resentment. [NYDN]

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; 2008polls; barackobama; buyersremorse; democrats; electionpresident; elections; mccain; nobama08; obama
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Brer Democrat and the Tar Baby.


21 posted on 08/20/2008 10:02:41 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Barack's star is falling like a meteorite.

Will he be toast before the Dem convention?

Hillary must be rubbing her hands with glee.

22 posted on 08/20/2008 10:04:06 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: icwhatudo
Obama is going to be like one of those boy bands ((New Kids, Minudo). The media goes wild, huge crowds, then all of a sudden people wake up and are embarrassed to admit they ever listened.

Exactly, that is because they promoted him like a Rock Star & not a candidate! DUmmies!

23 posted on 08/20/2008 10:04:48 AM PDT by blondee123 (NO-BAMA for President in 2008!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is far simpler than that. “Above my pay grade” was Obama’s Dukakis Momment.


24 posted on 08/20/2008 10:05:00 AM PDT by piytar
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To: N. Theknow

25 posted on 08/20/2008 10:05:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: icwhatudo
"Obama is going to be like one of those boy bands ((New Kids, Minudo). The media goes wild, huge crowds, then all of a sudden people wake up and are embarrassed to admit they ever listened."

You should add the "Bay City Rollers" to that list of bands.
26 posted on 08/20/2008 10:06:42 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

More “nuance” needed NOW!


27 posted on 08/20/2008 10:07:11 AM PDT by listenhillary (Obama - The Wizard of Uhs)
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To: TheThinker

Wow, the messiah is not wearing any clothes !!!!


28 posted on 08/20/2008 10:07:22 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (You were right when you said they were wrong, but you're wrong for thinking you're right.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Have you seen the tickets for the big event in the stadium?
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29 posted on 08/20/2008 10:07:25 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Osama and Obama both have friends that have bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
McCain is up five? In a Zogby poll?

Oooooo.

30 posted on 08/20/2008 10:08:12 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: LegalEagle61

The real question is whether he will remove the “President” embroidery on his Obama One throne.


31 posted on 08/20/2008 10:08:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...while a Zogby poll released this morning shows McCain — yes, McCain — with a five-point lead.

I'm taking this one with a grain of salt. Imagine a hypothetical pollster. Normally, this hypothetical pollster slants hai polls to favor the dem. So in this situation, he would normally release a Registered Voters poll (which favors the dem) and then move the numbers a couple of points toward the dem with sample selection.

Imagine that this same hypothetical pollster wanted HRC as the nominee. He might just release a likely voters poll on the eve of the convention with a couple of points of secret sauce added to McCain.

I can't imagine this would happen in the real world. But it might.

32 posted on 08/20/2008 10:08:30 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: LS
If the Dems get rid of Obama, it could be a turning point for the black vote. The resentment will last for years

Quite the dilemma for the sociolibcommucrats, that's for sure.

33 posted on 08/20/2008 10:13:35 AM PDT by workerbee (Vote for Obama? No thanks, I already have a messiah.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"... and, Barry, even if you get the nomination, it may not be the 'end of the story'. Take my word for it!"

34 posted on 08/20/2008 10:16:14 AM PDT by Gritty (Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - Michelle Obama)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A DU opinion:

ProSense (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-20-08 11:17 AM Original message I'm so disappointed in Obama Advertisements [?]Why did he have to beat Hillary?

Why is he allowing McCain to catch up?

I don't care about his lead or his $51 million record fundraising.

His inexperience is showing, he should have lost to Hillary and should be losing to McCain.

35 posted on 08/20/2008 10:16:20 AM PDT by blondee123 (NO-BAMA for President in 2008!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Add ‘Combat Kerry’ to the ticket and should do it!


36 posted on 08/20/2008 10:16:50 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Dean Barnett thinks "the rest of the country is beginning to discover" that "Obama doesn’t wear well." His "potentially fatal lack of substance" may doom him, as could his "allergy to getting specific."

I don't agree with Barnett. The rest of the country (aside from those who would vote for this guy no matter what) is beginning to see the substance behind the hype -- abortion-or-bust, collectivism, massive tax hikes, lies, evasions, questionable fund-raising, elitism -- and it doesn't like what it sees.

37 posted on 08/20/2008 10:17:53 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: LetsRok

Obama is the “Milli Vanilli” candidate, all he does is lip sync someone else’s words.


38 posted on 08/20/2008 10:18:40 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: LS
Tremendous unease out there on the Dem side. They are trapped. They can’t get rid of Obama, but they can’t win with him either.

They CAN get rid of him... it just needs to be done carefully, and allow Hillary to retain those monolithic black votes. They'll find a way to do it, and probably within the next 3-4 weeks.

39 posted on 08/20/2008 10:20:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes indeed Lovely it is :)


40 posted on 08/20/2008 10:27:49 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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