Posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater
A federal judge has ruled the University of California can deny course credit to Christian high school graduates who have been taught with textbooks that reject evolution and declare the Bible infallible, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles ruled Friday that the school's review committees did not discriminate against Christians because of religious viewpoints when it denied credit to those taught with certain religious textbooks, but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking and omitted important science and history topics.
Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, told the Chronicle that the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations."
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It appears that we both agree that the bible cannot be taken literally since translations may be in error.
Risk? You posted an example of what you considered an actual error, not a 'risk'. Unless you retract your post, we both agree that there are translation errors in the bible and it cannot be taken literally.
You must have other assumptions, otherwise you could not say on the basis of that premise alone that creation science is a contradiction in terms.
Cordially,
Our daughter begins her freshman year later this month at a well-regarded Christian University in Oregon. ( poindexters brother)
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Poindexter and luckystarmom,
The University of California schools are heavily subsidized with taxpayer money.
Government money ( your money, pointdexter) is being used to promote an atheistic Secular Humanist religious worldview. **Your** money is being used to ridicule and subvert your religious beliefs.
Luckystarmom,...yes,...Parents and children are not forced to attend UC schools but they are forced to pay for them in their taxes.
Some of the problems that government schools have with the First Amendment are avoided in government colleges and universities because attendance is voluntary...but..taxpayers are still forced to pay for colleges and universities that can never be religiously neutral. Why? Because a religious neutral education is impossible.
( By the way, did I ever tell you that I love your screen name? It is so optimistic! )
Parents and children are not forced to live in CA and pay California taxes.
NCLaw441,
Mr.B. is making a good point in his reply to you.
The Secular Humanists are not people of good will. They will pervert the credentialing that you suggest to disallow anything ( private and government) that does not have the Secular Humanist religious imprimatur.
This action by the UC Secular Humanists wasn't about credentialing courses. It was about destroying Christian education, manipulating Christian education, and pressuring Christians into bending to the will of Secular Humanism.
We see the same tactics used on the Catholic Church who can no longer offer adoption services because the Secular Humanists demand that they give babies to same sex couples.
There is the psychologist who was fired from his job with the Chicago police department because he was ( in the past) a former member of a fundamentalist Christian church that opposes homosexuality.
Christmas is now the “Winter Holiday”.
The action by UC against these Christian high schools in just one more dead canary in mine shaft. Sadly, Christians are asleep.
Parents and children are not forced to live in CA and pay California taxes.
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Gee! So they move to another state. Where do they go when that state is taken over by the Secular Humanists?
Before long Christians will be living in catacombs.
The truth is that the Secular Humanists would **kill** Christians if the could. They just can’t get away with it...(yet). Yes, they really do hate Christians that much.
Parents and children are not forced to live in CA and pay California taxes.
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By the way, California is having a problem with a middle and upper class exodus of families.
The meek shall inherit the earth. Seriously, if Christians make up the majority of the US population, why are the 'secular humanists' taking over?
Strong words. What do you base them on?
The conclusion is a self-refuting non-sequiter.
Logically, it would be impossible to tell the difference between a translation error and an accurate translation without assuming in the first place that the original had a literal meaning, i.e., a meaning that was intended, and could be interpreted in it's proper sense. Therefore, your conclusion violates the terms of the premise, and is incoherent.
In the second place, it simply does not follow that because some translations are in error that all translations are necessarily in error.
Cordially,
Agreed. There are translation errors in the Bible and thus it cannot be taken literally.
Are you really so badly warped that you believe nonsense like this?
You need to get out more.
Because Christians **wrongly** believe that since they are people of good will, that Secular Humanist are too.
Another reason is that Christians are like frogs in a pot of slowly warming water. They will cook there until it is too late.
There are now entire segments of our culture where it is likely very difficult or impossible for a Christian ( who was forthright about his belief) to get a job, or earn the credential or degree necessary for the job. These segments of the culture are now nearly totally beyond the influence of Christianity. ( Two of **many** examples: university professorships and many of the arts.)
Finally, Christians think government K-12 schools are like the school they knew when they were kids. WRONG!
Studies show that 85% of Christian children who have families active in their church will leave the religion within 2 years after high school. Worse, is that huge percentages of those kids who claim to be Christian hold Secular Humanist religious beliefs that utterly disqualify them from being considered Christian.
I fear that many of the people who call themselves “Christian” in the U.S. are not Christian at all! They are really Secular Humanist in their religious beliefs.
Christians long ago dropped the idea of using the gov’t to influence the culture.
Secular Humanists have no such ethical problem. They’ve even gotten the government to essentially “establish” their religion as default, without being subject to the weapon of “separation” that they use against Christians.
Two court cases tell the tale: One says that SH is a religion for “free exercise” purposes, and the other says that SH is not a religion for “establishment” purposes.
In short, the SH’s have the guns of gov’t to back them up, and the Christians do not.
How are you going to keep them down on the farm after they've seen...the farm?
I hadn't heard that before. Why is that?
Your foolish claim that something is not in the Bible, when it plainly is.
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