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Envisioning a World Without Men
ABC News ^ | 04/28/2008 | Nick Watt

Posted on 04/29/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Imagine a world without men: Lauren Bacall but no Bogie, Hillary Clinton but no Bill, no Starsky or Hutch.

This isn't just an unlikely sci-fi scenario. This could be reality, according to Bryan Sykes, an eminent professor of genetics at Oxford University and author of "Adam's Curse: A Future Without Men."

"The Y chromosome is deteriorating and will, in my belief, disappear," Sykes told me. A world-renowned authority on genetic material, Sykes is called upon to investigate DNA evidence from crime scenes. His team of researchers is currently compiling a DNA family tree for our species.

Y Chromosome 'Fatally Flawed'

The Y chromosome is passed from father to son, it's what makes babies into boys. Basically the human template is a female: the Y chromosome kicks in a few weeks after conception and makes a boy. "Men are genetically modified women," explained Sykes. But unlike other chromosomes, the Y chromosome can't repair itself and will, says Sykes, disappear altogether in about 125,000 years.

"Every generation one percent of men will have a mutation which reduces their fertility by 10 percent," explained Sykes. Unlike most chromosomes, the Y does not travel through the generation in pairs, so can never repair itself from a mirror. Flaws are never repaired. "So if that goes on for generation after generation," Sykes argued, "eventually there are no functioning Y chromosomes left."

So no more men … sparsely populated sports bars, Ferrari would lose the lion's share of its business, and Hooters would probably go out of business.

It's a long time, 125,000 years. But we men have a far more immediate problem: sperm counts have fallen by an incredible 20 percent in the past 50 years. Stress? Alcohol? Environmental pollution? Who knows, but it's deeply concerning for those of us with a vested interest in the survival of the male.

Sykes has received hate mail. "To seem to be saying that men will become extinct, which is what I am saying," he mused. "I've had all kinds of messages from male groups saying, 'how can you betray your gender?'"

But would the absence of men make the world a better place? There would be far fewer wars without men on the planet, and the U.S. prison population would drop a colossal 97 percent. Road deaths in the U.S. would fall 70 percent. The Olympics would be half as long, which some people might view as a good thing.

Female-Only Reproduction

But surely, flawed Y chromosome or not, bad behavior or not, we are needed for procreation. Women can't have babies without us … right? I'm afraid, pretty soon they won't need our sperm, our chromosomes, our anything.

Until now, female-only reproduction has been limited to the plant and animal kingdom. So-called parthenogenesis, observed in the Cape Honey Bee, the Kimono Dragon and the hammerhead shark. In humans: confined to 1950s B movies. But Sykes says the technology for women to procreate without us is just around the corner.

"Within the next few years you will get two women having a child who is the biological child of both of them," Sykes said. "And entirely normal in every respect, but always female."

They've already done it with mice. Two mothers: the genetic material from one used to fertilize the egg of the other.

Two Mommies

The picture that Professor Sykes is painting is of a nuclear family without a man in sight. We went in search of what could be the template for the survival of our species. Laura and Natalie are a lovely couple who live in South London with their 13-month-old daughter Sanne. They agreed to let our all-male crew take a peek into their lives. Natalie actually gave birth to Sanne. The sperm came from an anonymous donor. She's raised by two moms.

"That the child will be well balanced with just two moms: Well, that's been proven back in the 40s," explained Natalie, who is also a child psychologist. "It's the care giving and the relationship between the care-giver and the infant that is the important part."

Laura, who right now is the bread winner, thinks any family will work as long as the child is, "getting the attention, the affection, the discipline." Looking at her very contented daughter, Laura told me, "She's obviously confident. She's very stable and secure. So I think so far we're doing okay."

Laura attended both the dads' and the moms' prenatal classes. I asked Natalie if having Laura as the partner was better than having a man? "I had actually a couple of mothers saying, 'Well, at least Laura's a woman she will understand better.'" Natalie told me. "And I said, 'no.' … She was exactly the same as the dads!"

Could Laura mount a defense? "I would like to think that I separate from the dads in that I'm not hooked on the ball games and things like that," she explained. And I must say, she was knee-deep in diaper changing and feeding time while we were hanging out.

So judging by this family, two moms aren't necessarily better, but can be just as good. But surely they must need a burly man for some things? I offered to put up some shelves, or change some light bulbs. "Actually, Laura is very, very handy," Natalie told me, trying not to hurt my feelings.

"My father's a mechanic, so there's nothing about a car that disturbs me," explained Laura. "I've also … I renovated a house. So, I'm really not concerned about that either."

Maybe our only hope as men is that women decide to keep us alive for their own amusement. For the pop music, perhaps, or maybe the dancing. We can be good at that.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I cannot even fathom this, nor would I want to. If it really has any chance of becoming a reality, I would like to think people would do something to change it.

If the men actually died off, eventually, humankind would too. Duh.

BTW, where do all these men-hating women come from? Sheesh. I loved my dad; I love my brothers and I love my husband and son. I have very fond feelings for a lot of other men who are dear friends to me and my family as well.

This is just pathetic and ridiculous. Besides, they’re short of women in China.


81 posted on 04/29/2008 11:42:28 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Southerngl

I’m with YOU. In many instances, I like them MUCH better than women - they tell it to you straight and you know where you stand with men (no catty, behind the scenes crap with men).


82 posted on 04/29/2008 11:43:34 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Myrddin
Pollution of water supplies with female hormones excreted in urine from birth control pills is a problem in many parts of Europe.

I doubt that the miniscule dosages in oral contraceptives will funtion in such dilutions. My opinion is that Starbucks is foisting this hoax to steer suspicion away from the phytoestrogens in their soy lattes.

83 posted on 04/29/2008 12:16:15 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

yeah, and in 125,000 years, when this “female-world” is all on the same cycle, at the same time, I for one will be glad to have departed this Earth..


84 posted on 04/29/2008 12:32:00 PM PDT by Fedupwithit (If you waste your time thinking about what if, you will miss what is...)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is some funny stuff. Woman was created from man, as a companion for man. Sin has diluted this bond, but it is still there. Women would be nothing without man, and man without woman.


85 posted on 04/29/2008 1:14:54 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I noticed liberal men tend to have more girls than boys (generalization, of course). Could it be THEY’RE the ones with the falling sperm rates?

Just my .02.


86 posted on 04/29/2008 1:41:15 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Paved Paradise
BTW, where do all these men-hating women come from? Sheesh. I loved my dad...
You answered your own question. With rare exception, those man haters' fathers were absent or weren't up to the challenge of fatherhood.
87 posted on 04/29/2008 1:45:42 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii (Lookin' for the joke with a microscope)
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To: Squawk 8888

Freeper ashfieldK and I just celebrated our happy 17th anniversary on Sunday. Sorry! But thanks for the gracious offer :*}


88 posted on 04/29/2008 1:52:39 PM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A lot of flat tires won’t get changed.


89 posted on 04/29/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Allegra; CanadianLibertarian

I knew you would get it. I was thinking of all that you have been through and smirked at the idea that you might be “helpless”. And, as CL said, man (mankind) is the standard of value. If the good Lord hadn’t needed both sexes, He wouldn’t have made them, and made them the “crowning glory” of His creations. I get so tired of Humanists who think we can be or do anything without our Creator and sustainer.


90 posted on 04/29/2008 2:09:44 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: webheart
I doubt that the miniscule dosages in oral contraceptives will funtion in such dilutions. My opinion is that Starbucks is foisting this hoax to steer suspicion away from the phytoestrogens in their soy lattes.

They function just fine. Not good enough to provide birth control for women, but sufficient to be harmful to males when ingested. Google is your friend. Do some reading on the topic.

91 posted on 04/29/2008 2:12:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: DungeonMaster
This thread is begging for pictures of women.

Be careful what you wish for...

92 posted on 04/29/2008 2:13:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: EveningStar

This would make a good South Park episode (and ‘tard ping)


93 posted on 04/29/2008 2:15:34 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: WVNan
CL is a woman hater / woman wanna-be. He posts obsessively on gender-related threads and little else. He slings unwarranted insults and then cries like a baby when people call him on it.

I wouldn't pay him much mind. ;-)

94 posted on 04/29/2008 2:52:53 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Allegra
What a bunch of liberal, lesbo, feminazi bullcr@p.

Amen to that!

95 posted on 04/29/2008 3:43:27 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Ramius
Anybody who believes this has never worked in an all-female office

Sad, but true..... I would rather work in an office with all men. Women try to destroy each other. A very bizarre thing to behold.

96 posted on 04/29/2008 3:47:59 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee

I’m not sure where I read it, but it fits:

A mysogynist is a man who hates women as much as women do.


97 posted on 04/29/2008 4:09:17 PM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Misterogyny


98 posted on 04/29/2008 4:11:46 PM PDT by Radix (Q. What do you call a row of rabbits walking backwards? A. A receding hare line.)
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To: wagglebee

...and spiders will never get killed.


99 posted on 04/29/2008 5:03:57 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Great minds think alike!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2008631/posts?page=41#41


100 posted on 04/29/2008 5:05:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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