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I’ve found God, says man who cracked the genome
The London Times ^ | June 11, 2006 | Steven Swinford

Posted on 04/07/2008 2:25:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

THE scientist who led the team that cracked the human genome is to publish a book explaining why he now believes in the existence of God and is convinced that miracles are real.

Francis Collins, the director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute, claims there is a rational basis for a creator and that scientific discoveries bring man “closer to God”.

His book, The Language of God, to be published in September, will reopen the age-old debate about the relationship between science and faith. “One of the great tragedies of our time is this impression that has been created that science and religion have to be at war,” said Collins, 56.

“I don’t see that as necessary at all and I think it is deeply disappointing that the shrill voices that occupy the extremes of this spectrum have dominated the stage for the past 20 years.”

For Collins, unravelling the human genome did not create a conflict in his mind. Instead, it allowed him to “glimpse at the workings of God”.

“When you make a breakthrough it is a moment of scientific exhilaration because you have been on this search and seem to have found it,” he said. “But it is also a moment where I at least feel closeness to the creator in the sense of having now perceived something that no human knew before but God knew all along.

“When you have for the first time in front of you this 3.1 billion-letter instruction book that conveys all kinds of information and all kinds of mystery about humankind, you can’t survey that going through page after page without a sense of awe. I can’t help but look at those pages and have a vague sense that this is giving me a glimpse of God’s mind.”

Collins joins a line of scientists whose research deepened their belief in God. Isaac Newton, whose discovery of the laws of gravity reshaped our understanding of the universe, said: “This most beautiful system could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.”

Although Einstein revolutionised our thinking about time, gravity and the conversion of matter to energy, he believed the universe had a creator. “I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details,” he said. However Galileo was famously questioned by the inquisition and put on trial in 1633 for the “heresy” of claiming that the earth moved around the sun.

Among Collins’s most controversial beliefs is that of “theistic evolution”, which claims natural selection is the tool that God chose to create man. In his version of the theory, he argues that man will not evolve further.

“I see God’s hand at work through the mechanism of evolution. If God chose to create human beings in his image and decided that the mechanism of evolution was an elegant way to accomplish that goal, who are we to say that is not the way,” he says.

“Scientifically, the forces of evolution by natural selection have been profoundly affected for humankind by the changes in culture and environment and the expansion of the human species to 6 billion members. So what you see is pretty much what you get.”

Collins was an atheist until the age of 27, when as a young doctor he was impressed by the strength that faith gave to some of his most critical patients.

“They had terrible diseases from which they were probably not going to escape, and yet instead of railing at God they seemed to lean on their faith as a source of great comfort and reassurance,” he said. “That was interesting, puzzling and unsettling.”

He decided to visit a Methodist minister and was given a copy of C S Lewis’s Mere Christianity, which argues that God is a rational possibility. The book transformed his life. “It was an argument I was not prepared to hear,” he said. “I was very happy with the idea that God didn’t exist, and had no interest in me. And yet at the same time, I could not turn away.”

His epiphany came when he went hiking through the Cascade Mountains in Washington state. He said: “It was a beautiful afternoon and suddenly the remarkable beauty of creation around me was so overwhelming, I felt, ‘I cannot resist this another moment’.”

Collins believes that science cannot be used to refute the existence of God because it is confined to the “natural” world. In this light he believes miracles are a real possibility. “If one is willing to accept the existence of God or some supernatural force outside nature then it is not a logical problem to admit that, occasionally, a supernatural force might stage an invasion,” he says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheismandscience; creation; creationism; evolution; franciscollins; humangenome; religion; religionandscience; science
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To: AmericaUnited
"It's the MAGNITUDE of the intelliegnce that gives the clue..."

So? The aliens have super intelligence and advanced technology.

This is an explanation just as plausable as god.
21 posted on 04/07/2008 3:39:52 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: GAB-1955

It’s irrelevant to the context of this argument. We are asking the specific question, “Who designed our DNA?”. Anything beyond that is outside the logical boundaries of the argument. That is, it doesn’t matter who made the aliens. It could be god, or not. The important point is that they could have designed our DNA.


22 posted on 04/07/2008 3:42:36 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: joseph20
The aliens have super intelligence and advanced technology.

Ok... where did the "aliens" come from?

23 posted on 04/07/2008 3:42:45 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

It doesn’t matter where the aliens came from. The point here is not to try to prove that God exists. The point is to simply explain how our DNA was designed.


24 posted on 04/07/2008 3:44:12 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: joseph20

I think we may be Cylons and just don’t know it.


25 posted on 04/07/2008 4:02:48 AM PDT by jacksonstate
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Particle (Quantum) Physics scientist observe a particle can be in two places at once. What is interesting is we have this concept to find God you have to go big, and actually there is more evidence God exist by going small.


26 posted on 04/07/2008 4:22:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: jacksonstate
I think we may be Cylons and just don’t know it.

I'd be better looking if I was a Cylon

27 posted on 04/07/2008 4:37:34 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: a_chronic_whiner

“For we know in part and we believe in part....” I guess the apostle Paul had a weak faith....!?


28 posted on 04/07/2008 4:39:13 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: AmericaUnited

I can doubt my existence but I can’t doubt the fact that I am doubting...alien or otherwise!


29 posted on 04/07/2008 4:41:02 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: joseph20

And the aliens designed sunsets, thunderstorms, coral reefs, the Grand Canyon and children’s laughter.

Pretty powerful aliens. Almost god-like.


30 posted on 04/07/2008 4:41:35 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He now believes in Gob, but he hasn't ditched the theory of evolution.

How about that.

31 posted on 04/07/2008 4:41:44 AM PDT by Salman
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To: sirchtruth
What is interesting is we have this concept to find God you have to go big, and actually there is more evidence God exist by going small.

You are very correct and my favorite verse on this is Colosians 1:17 "17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.". The very atoms of the universe are held together by His power.

32 posted on 04/07/2008 4:41:44 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: AmericaUnited
It could be an alien impersonating you... hehe...

Oh, great. Now I'm going to be paranoid for the rest of the day.

(LOL)

33 posted on 04/07/2008 4:48:24 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: sr4402
That's a great verse!

It amazes me what scientist have found, and how it relates directly to evidence God exist.

34 posted on 04/07/2008 5:03:59 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: joseph20
So? The aliens have super intelligence and advanced technology.

You sound like you know for a fact that there are aliens.... Have you ever seen or met one?

35 posted on 04/07/2008 5:07:56 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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36 posted on 04/07/2008 5:14:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YEA GOD!

THX


37 posted on 04/07/2008 5:16:23 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One can also observe first-hand evidence of G-d's magnificent work by studying the gross anatomy of the human eye. There are numerous on-line resources that cover this subject; one of the best is here.
38 posted on 04/07/2008 5:18:51 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: agere_contra

With a red headlight...


39 posted on 04/07/2008 5:25:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Bushwacker777

“In college I always noticed the irony that my political science and sociology teachers seemed to generally be atheistic or agnostic but my biology and geology professors all seemed to believe in God.”

You are exactly right for two reasons: 1. The hard sciences generally attract higher quality, more intelligent students (no offense, just from observations made over the last 30 years); 2. the incredible complexity of living systems, including this planet are revealed to scientists then forced to admit that the middle-ages belief in spontaneous generation is a bit too simplistic. Knowing and understanding the necessary existence of God is strictly reserved for humans only, not lower animals. Lower animals are atheist since it is beyond their comprehension to fathom God and Creation.


40 posted on 04/07/2008 6:13:19 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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