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Anti-War General Flip Flops on the Surge
American Thinker ^ | 12-9-07 | Rick Moran

Posted on 12/09/2007 10:14:51 AM PST by smoothsailing

December 09, 2007

Anti-War General Flip Flops on the Surge

Rick Moran

One of the Iraq War's harshest military critics, retired General John Batiste, has changed his mind and come out in support of the new counterinsurgency strategy.

In a joint Op-Ed in the Washington Post with Pete Hegseth, executive director of Vets for Freedom, Batiste, who was a board member of the anti-war group Votevets.org, gives some of his reasons for the change of heart:

First, the United States must be successful in the fight against worldwide Islamic extremism. We have seen this ruthless enemy firsthand, and its global ambitions are undeniable. This struggle, the Long War, will probably take decades to prosecute. Failure is not an option.

Second, whether or not we like it, Iraq is central to that fight. We cannot walk away from our strategic interests in the region. Iraq cannot become a staging ground for Islamic extremism or be dominated by other powers in the region, such as Iran and Syria. A premature or precipitous withdrawal from Iraq, without the requisite stability and security, is likely to cause the violence there -- which has decreased substantially but is still present -- to cascade into an even larger humanitarian crisis.

Third, the counterinsurgency campaign led by Gen. David Petraeus is the correct approach in Iraq. It is showing promise of success and, if continued, will provide the Iraqi government the opportunities it desperately needs to stabilize its country.

Michael Goldfarb sums up the significance of the switch: There are two stories here: 1) A formerly anti-war general flips on supporting the war, and now believes Petraeus has the right strategy; and 2) Batiste has left VoteVets.org, and the antiwar movement, and joined up with the pro-troop, pro-surge, pro-victory Vets for Freedom.

The antiwar movement has lost one of its most powerful voices today, and it will be interesting to see whether they turn on one of their own, or come around to the view, supported by a preponderance of evidence, that the surge is working.

It is doubtful that Batiste's former colleagues at VoteVets will change their positions given that they are based on wild conspiracy theories on why we are fighting the war and a healthy dose of Bush hatred. Nevertheless, the defection of one of their highest profile military officers is extremely significant.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: batiste; flipflops; johnbatiste; surge; v4f; vetsforfreedom; votevets; votevetsorg
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To: Griddlee
Col. Chesty Puller, when 60,000 Chinese troops surrounded the 1st Marines at Chosin.

And Col. Chesty Puller was correct. I have a friend who is a survivor of the Chosin and just this morning I stumbled on an article about another survivor in a small town paper in Eastern Oregon.

One of the ‘Chosin' few

41 posted on 12/09/2007 11:53:42 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: smoothsailing
National politics is such a sleazy arena hardly anyone can enter without being soiled. James Webb of Virginia was someone I admired for years. We served in the same battalion in Vietnam. It is pathetic that Webb, Anthony Zinni, Batiste, and others have debased themselves by adopting a defeatist line for the promise of political power.
42 posted on 12/09/2007 11:56:41 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: smoothsailing

Something that no one brings up - is the Speech that President Bush gave right after 9/11.
Something to the affect that it will not be an easy quick fix, we won’t be told what is happening and we should keep the faith.

We have a lazy lazy media. Young people that have been handed everything from birth that is so used to instant gratification has also fallen for the Clinton liberal ploy.

On Friday afternoon the Clintons give stories to the media that allows the reporters to quickly file something so they can leave for the weekend.

This also allows the media to pay less and therefore get less. In order to make a profit they have removed the incentive of true investigative reporting.

Because most of them are liberals at heart, they don’t want to know the truth if it means going against their ideology. The front page of the Washington Post, LA Times and New York Times is like a running advertisment for the liberals.

Are there any investigate reporters left?


43 posted on 12/09/2007 12:00:55 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: smoothsailing
Was he really anti-war ? or was he anti-administration strategy ?

"...we went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, and who didn't build a strong team."

"I think the current administration repeatedly ignored sound military advice and counsel with respect to the war plans."

"Donald Rumsfeld is still at the helm of the Department of Defense, which is absolutely outrageous. He served up our great military a huge bowl of chicken feces, and ever since then, our military and our country have been trying to turn this bowl into chicken salad. And it’s not working.

"The military is a reflection of society, and because of that there is always a percentage of soldiers, Marines, airmen and sailors who get it terribly wrong." I also think the people of Iraq respect the U.S. military and will keep that in perspective. They'll appreciate the way we investigate and hold people accountable."

"Standing up a war czar is just throwing in another layer of bureaucracy. Excuse me -- we have a chain of command already and it's time for our leaders to step up and take charge."
44 posted on 12/09/2007 12:12:45 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: All; Allegra; Anita1

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http://www.Freerepublic.com/~anita1/

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45 posted on 12/09/2007 12:21:13 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Anita1
GREAT home pages - both of you.

God bless America and her troops.

46 posted on 12/09/2007 12:33:04 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: jveritas; jrooney; elhombrelibre
>>>"Victory has many fathers but defeat is an orphan." <<<

Evidently Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are intent on being parents of an orphan.

That so many Democrats, Democrat presidental candidates included, join them has the potential of a national disaster of unthinkable proportions.

47 posted on 12/09/2007 12:37:05 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: HardStarboard

Exactly.


48 posted on 12/09/2007 12:39:55 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks and bookmark for later head explosive action

lol


49 posted on 12/09/2007 12:45:19 PM PST by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: smoothsailing

General Batiste, we want to - have to - win this war. We are pleased to have you back.


50 posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:04 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: PROCON

Muck Furtha!!


51 posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:21 PM PST by Chieftain (RIP Texas Cowboy, 68-69 TonkinGulfYachtClub and Chief Negotiator, we miss you all.)
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To: smoothsailing

One of the Iraq War’s harshest military critics, retired General John Batiste, has changed his mind and come out in support of the new counterinsurgency strategy.


52 posted on 12/09/2007 1:06:57 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: smoothsailing
Haven't heard from Marine General Anthony Zinni lately.

Zinni was one of the harshest Iraq war critics the libs adored.

53 posted on 12/09/2007 2:00:23 PM PST by Griddlee
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To: Allegra; reformjoy; RonDog

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Thank you very much for your kindness, Allegra.

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Praise GOD that...
President BUSH has promised...

Freedom’s return to:

Communist Vietnam
Communist North Korea
Communist Cuba

..as well as..

Freedom’s arrival to:

All the countries of the Middle East

...as America’s own best self-protection against future terrorist attacks here at home.

* Quoting President BUSH in a signed letter read aloud to over 1,000 Little Saigon Vietnamese Americans demonstrating in loving support for his bringing Freedom to the people of Iraq & Afghanistan - April 2003

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Signed:..”ALOHA RONNIE” Guyer, an in-person witness

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NEVER FORGET

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54 posted on 12/09/2007 2:06:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; Allegra

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MEL’s -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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55 posted on 12/09/2007 2:09:21 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Griddlee

I was just thinking about them yesterday...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936649/posts?page=30#30


56 posted on 12/09/2007 2:57:29 PM PST by freema
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To: jazusamo; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

I sure hate for you to miss this link on jaz’s Post #41.

Memories from one of the Chosin Frozen.


57 posted on 12/09/2007 2:59:56 PM PST by freema
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To: Chieftain

“Muck Furtha!!”

uh..Gunnie, do I feel a note of contempt in your post?!/s

Thanks for your service, Marine, and your sons too!!


58 posted on 12/09/2007 3:12:32 PM PST by PROCON (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: freema

As Chesty said, “Men we are surrounded.....now we can fire in any direction!”.

Good night Chesty, where ever you are!


59 posted on 12/09/2007 3:17:54 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: PROCON
Murtha: 'Surge Is Working'(click)
60 posted on 12/09/2007 3:22:40 PM PST by RGSpincich
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