Posted on 10/23/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by NorthernRight
Edited on 10/23/2007 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
October 22, 2007
Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate. See Interactive Map
Fire officials found three separate “points of origin,” all near the intersection of Silverado Canyon Road and Santiago Canyon Road. Two were on one side of the road, and the third was on the other. “Whoever did this knew what they were doing,” said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Also, the fire traveled 3 miles in its first 20 minutes when it was ignited about 6 p.m. Sunday, he said.
We are NOT implying that the California fires are an act of terrorism however; the threat of pyro-terrorist attacks pose a significant risk to the U.S. and the fires in California and in Greece earlier this year should be a wake-up call.
In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.
It was reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.
“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.
How Can So Many Fires Be By Natural Causes ?
A Local News Radio talk show host in San Diego asked, “how can so many fires, in so many places, in such a short period of time, all be caused by natural causes”.
From USA Today in July of 2003
USA Today/Gannett publication article removed.
al-Qaeda Detainee Spoke of Fire Plot
As we have stated before. If you see anything suspicious, report it to law enforcement immediately.
UPDATE: Video - Officials say arson now suspected in Orange County Fire
UPDATE: From Los Angeles Fox News
“I’m sad to report this is an arson fire,” OCFA Chief Chip Prather announced at an early morning briefing. “There were three separate starts: two on one side of the road and one on the other, and obviously we are actively investigating that.”
Links - A number of blogs and websites have sprung up to report on the fires. We will provide links to a couple we’ve found.
National Interagency Fire Center
Live Local News Coverage Channel 10 San Diego
Written by News Admin · Filed Under Incident Reports
I see this also as potentially creating need for construction of new homes maybe ?
Gee whiz.......where will one find that many forms of cheap labor in Kalipornia ?
Parking lot of Lowes or Home Depot maybe ?
-Wikipedia
“an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States”
Anyone have the KSM papers handy. I’m sure he at least made some kind of attempt to take future credit for this (lol). Some will get this... some won’t.
Harry Reid is claiming it was caused by Global Warming too.
The vast majority of Americans do not have any say in our foreign policies. Unfortunately that is left up to politicians and select campaign contributers.
This may be true but a moment of truth is about to happen when the home owner finds out he is under insured. One bright spot if there is one is the fact framing lumber costs are less than a year or two ago.
Another thing the home owner may be faced with is banks reluctant to loan for reconstruction. I have never had a complete loss while owing money on the property...
Very plausible and has occurred in a few cases in the past. This event however was unique. Very strong Santa Ana winds were blowing as these fires were set or broke out. These particular winds were the strongest we have had here in a very long time. Sunday night it felt as if my roof was going to blow off for about 5-6 of the peak gusts. Fireman (or exFireman) would be knowledgeable enough to realize that setting a fire in those winds would be very dangerous and completely uncontrollable (as we have seen from the damages). Luckily the winds have mostly stopped tonight, so there may be possibilities for some mischief, but those will probably be fireman setting backfires. Having stated all that however, I would not be surprised to learn that a couple of those new fires that appeared close to existing fires may have been backfires that got out of control. Intent however was good.
Cheers!
Not to mention that California canyon country is hardly the place that people who were credit risks could have even THOUGHT about buying a home.
Perhaps a flipper could have got caught with his pants down, but his scenario is highly unlikely.
Well done, I say to you again, sir.
Cheers!
(Grey whiskers is curious, as he doesn't shave much.)
Cheers!
Nothing to see here....lol!
That raises a question in my tiny brain... are any of the newly burnt houses among those that burned four years ago, because surely those loans wouldn't be paid off.
Dave Barry has a devastatingly funny article on this.
But I just read on Drudge that Harry Reid said it was caused by Global Warming????
I trust the Fire Chief more than Harry Reid
I’ve totally not kept with this fire situation, so I was just going from the snip from the officer. You’re right though, once the intitial instance(s) are on the table, it creates it’s own wind systems. Combine that with unusual wind patterns locally and the fireman are really putting it all on the line even getting out and setting some backfires.
Media should run an unconfirmed piece on a faux suspect talking with authorities, and mention that the there’s rumors of a deal trying to be worked out as an accident. Then run it as no good, after the headlines are made :) Could get a nibble.
Na Pete Stark my lovely rep in Washington (now let me go throw up) he will blame it on someone who wanted to see this for the amusement. It is not Global warming that is for sure.
Sorry...I went on an tiny little rant(age) there :) I keep this 3rd Part thing mentioned. I’ve caught myself thinking....hmmmmmmm. Not this time, but maybe in 2012. Maybe I just need a drink (lol) :))
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