"It's a 'Jump to Conclusions' mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO."
Posted on 10/23/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by NorthernRight
Edited on 10/23/2007 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
October 22, 2007
Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate. See Interactive Map
Fire officials found three separate “points of origin,” all near the intersection of Silverado Canyon Road and Santiago Canyon Road. Two were on one side of the road, and the third was on the other. “Whoever did this knew what they were doing,” said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Also, the fire traveled 3 miles in its first 20 minutes when it was ignited about 6 p.m. Sunday, he said.
We are NOT implying that the California fires are an act of terrorism however; the threat of pyro-terrorist attacks pose a significant risk to the U.S. and the fires in California and in Greece earlier this year should be a wake-up call.
In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.
It was reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.
“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.
How Can So Many Fires Be By Natural Causes ?
A Local News Radio talk show host in San Diego asked, “how can so many fires, in so many places, in such a short period of time, all be caused by natural causes”.
From USA Today in July of 2003
USA Today/Gannett publication article removed.
al-Qaeda Detainee Spoke of Fire Plot
As we have stated before. If you see anything suspicious, report it to law enforcement immediately.
UPDATE: Video - Officials say arson now suspected in Orange County Fire
UPDATE: From Los Angeles Fox News
“I’m sad to report this is an arson fire,” OCFA Chief Chip Prather announced at an early morning briefing. “There were three separate starts: two on one side of the road and one on the other, and obviously we are actively investigating that.”
Links - A number of blogs and websites have sprung up to report on the fires. We will provide links to a couple we’ve found.
National Interagency Fire Center
Live Local News Coverage Channel 10 San Diego
Written by News Admin · Filed Under Incident Reports
>>““The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.”<<
>Which is exactly why the government would lie to you and tell you that it is not terrorist related even if it were.<
Bingo! We have a winner here!
BLOATed is not a way that you feel, it’s an action you take...
2nd amendment that!
“So now someone associated with AQ goes from a terrorist to a mere associate...”
And while I’m bitching on that subject, the courts just annointed that very line of reasoning with their mis-trials yesteray. Idiots...the lot of them!
Reminds me of Spain's arson fires.
F.E.M.A. will not ask you where you want your tax dollars to go. Understood?
Post-Ramadan celebration week
The rains just killed the fires in Oregon a couple of weeks ago. During a TV interview an Oregon fire chief seemed a little too happy when he talked about heading to California. Also a lot of illegal aliens make good money on these fires.
Albeit an old discussion for us as to the bic lighter fighters I see this also as potentially creating need for construction of new homes maybe ?
Gee whiz.......where will one find that many forms of cheap labor in Kalipornia ?
Parking lot of Lowes or Home Depot maybe ?
“There was a case in Boston several years ago where firefighters were accused of arson, and I believe convicted. It was in the Readville section of town. I did a quick Google search without finding an affirmation of this item.”
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Oh, I’m sure “some” wildfires have been set by firefighters. That’s a far cry from “a surprisingly large number” which is what the OP said.
Let's say you bought your house for $800,000 at the top of the market in 2004. It's now 2007 and it will sell for only $500,000 if offered. Your ARM is about to reset to a higher percentage rate. You can't make the mortgage payments at the higher rate. You owe more than the house is worth. You can't refi because refi's are harder to get and you no longer qualify. You can't sell because you would owe more than it would bring. However, your house is insured for fire damage for the full amount you bought it for -- $800,000. There are several fires in the surrounding area. What to do...?
Is it possible?
The only thing our government won't be able to hide from us and cover for islamofascist ass's will be a mushroom cloud. Mustn't call the ROP terrorist.
Maybe they didn't torch a third of the state, but took advantage of the already widespread fire situation to add a small area to it that would include their unoccupied investment property that has been on the market for a while now and will not sell. There doesn't have to be a widespread conspiracy to think someone might take advantage of the chaos around them to improve their situation a little bit.
"It's a 'Jump to Conclusions' mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO."
there doesn’t have to be a widespread conspiracy to think someone might take advantage of the chaos around them to improve their situation a little bit.
Nope. And we call them murderers and put them in jail.
Maybe, just maybe, they'd learn that sort of thing would piss the vast majority of Americans off, rather than surrendering like they did in Spain... The change in policy? Sure, take "The Surge" and triple it!
Mark
Highly likely, IMO.
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