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Thompson to Dobson (take a hike)
NRO ^ | 10/4/2007 | Byron York

Posted on 10/04/2007 5:25:13 AM PDT by Neville72

It hasn't gotten much comment yet, but in his interview on Fox last night, Fred Thompson rather emphatically told Focus on the Family chief James Dobson to take a hike. Host Sean Hannity asked Thompson about Dobson, who has attacked Thompson and made it clear he would not support a Thompson candidacy. "Don't read too much into the Dobson thing," Thompson told Hannity, continuing:

A gentleman who has never met me, who has never talked to me, I've never talked to him on the phone. I did have one of his aides call me up and kind of apologize, the first time he attacked me and said I wasn't a Christian…

I don't know the gentleman. I do know that I have a lot of people who are of strong faith and are involved in the same organizations that he is in, that I've met with, Jeri and I both have met with, and I like to think that we have some strong friendships and support there…

Hannity then asked: "Would you want to have a conversation with Dr. Dobson? Do you think that might help?"

I have no idea. I don't particularly care to have a conversation with him. If he wants to call up and apologize again, that's ok with me. But I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; christianvote; dobson; electionpresident; fredthompson; jamesdobson
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To: John 3_19-21

no doubt...divide and conquer....is in play now. Amazing how well most fall into the trap. The old media would be proud of each of the divided and conquered. An old game in a WAR America cannot afford to lose.


101 posted on 10/04/2007 6:24:47 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: alicewonders

Dobson belongs to the creepy, authoritarian side. He drives voters away from conservative values.


102 posted on 10/04/2007 6:24:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Theo

Clarifications are not original comments. The original comment was clear. His explanation is backpedaling.

While Mr. Dobson is admirable in his Focus on the Family and his personal faith-his attempt to elevate himself as a final arbitor of what a persons faith is and a kingmaker is pretty crass.


103 posted on 10/04/2007 6:24:52 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: All

Here’s the link to the interview where Dobson said Fred Thompson was not a real Christian.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070328/28dobson.htm


104 posted on 10/04/2007 6:25:13 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Neville72
Go to:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

First story.

Dobson in his little hissy fit is going to insure that a Dem is the next president.

105 posted on 10/04/2007 6:25:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (in the halls of Valhalla...)
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To: zerosix

“One wonders if Fred might have treated a member of the Log Cabin Republicans thus.”

I suspect he would treat them with a good deal of deference as they didn’t declare him to “not be a Christian”.


106 posted on 10/04/2007 6:26:05 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Pistolshot

I see you’re not interested in understanding the truth, but are content with the cliche of a high-profile Christian being a demagogue.

Why so eager to believe the MSM, which has demonstrated time and again that they hate Christians and hate Republicans. Where’s your discernment? Can’t you see that the MSM is trying their best to divide us by misrepresenting high-profile Christians like Dobson?


107 posted on 10/04/2007 6:26:34 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: alicewonders

I like Dr. Dobson but Fred does make a good point. We need to be more discerning about comments we make. However, I know Dobson is a sincere Christian so I can forgive him for making a boo-boo.


108 posted on 10/04/2007 6:26:40 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Neville72

Love it!


109 posted on 10/04/2007 6:26:47 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: 5Madman2
Dr Dobson saying someone is not Christian is a rough equivalent to Black leaders saying someone is not Black enough.

Excellent comparison. I really hope that every single person on this thread that is praising Thompson (so am I) remembers their reaction when they decide is ok to accuse other posters of not being a "true Christian" because their views of a candidate may differ.

Somehow I doubt it though. Maybe I will book mark this thread, and just link it everyone says "Mitt is not a true Christian", or "Rudy is a CINO" etc.

Good for Fred, maybe this will help us all put the notion of "True Christianity" behind us.

110 posted on 10/04/2007 6:27:26 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: alicewonders

Not trying to pick a fight -

Have you or have you not heard leftists use that shortened version to justify not judging behaviors as right and wrong, productive or destructive? That’s the biggest (and only) sin to a leftist - judging someone’s behaviorial choices, though they don’t seem to think it’s a sin to hate conservative/traditional values.

Bott radio had a speaker on about a month ago that brought up the fact that the most oft-quoted bible verse used to be John 3:16, and now it is the “judge not” (without the “same measure”) verse.


111 posted on 10/04/2007 6:27:31 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: From One - Many
No, alienating Christians, or even the sizable subset of Christians who seem to think the name applies only to a species of protestants with a literalist Scriptural hermeneutic, is not a way to win elections or advance conservatism.

That's one reason Guiliani can't win, hopefully not the nomination, and certainly not the presidency (though I'd hold my nose and vote for him over Hillary, enough Christian voters would stay home or go for a third party candidate that he wouldn't win).

Sure the MSM is trying to split the GOP, we know their motives. The question is why is Dobson acting as an accomplice?

(BTW: Duncan Hunter will make a fine SecDef in the Thompson administration.) ^_^

My fellow FReepers might have noticed I like East Asian style smileys

112 posted on 10/04/2007 6:27:41 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: 5Madman2

Did you see posted the letter Regan wrote nearly 30 years ago slamming Richard Viguerie (another Fred basher) “and his ilk”(direct quote) for trying to set him up and use him. ( Iam going to find this letter and post it when I get home from work tonight. If you find it sooner, please do so as well.)

I think this was a “Viguerie moment” for FDT in which he, like Reagan, showed that he was not going to dance like a puppet on a string. This and his defense of Rush yesterday represent a sea change in the campaign IMHO.


113 posted on 10/04/2007 6:27:49 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: BibChr

And how did he diss them?

I didn’t see that in the article.

Dobson is one segment of a vast christian community.


114 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:09 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: 5Madman2

You say, “The original comment was clear.” What was that original comment, then?

“... final arbitor of what a persons faith is and a kingmaker is pretty crass.” Where did that come from? Please tell me you’re not siding with the MSM in misrepresenting and denigrating any high-profile Christian with an opinion.


115 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:24 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Neville72
I have no idea. I don't particularly care to have a conversation with him. If he wants to call up and apologize again, that's ok with me. But I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune.

That's gonna leave a mark.

116 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:28 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: BibChr
Thompson (who I want to like) isn’t exciting many folks so far. For him to diss the hardest-working and most convinced element of his should-be base... well, it’s not real bright.

If someone that has never met you, said they have never heard you profess your faith in Christ and therefore assumes you are not a Christian, how would you respond? Thompson said nothing wrong, and Dobson still owes Thompson an apology.

117 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Neville72
A gentleman who has never met me, who has never talked to me, I've never talked to him on the phone. I did have one of his aides call me up and kind of apologize, the first time he attacked me and said I wasn't a Christian…

Real classy there, Dobson. I think Fred's response is appropriate under the circumstances. If Dobson wants to extend an olive branch, I'm sure Fred would rethink his stance.

118 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:35 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: RockinRight

Then he’ll lose.

It was STUPID of Thompson, even if you don’t agree with Dobson. He’s already “iffy” to a significant part of his base, not convinced that he’s “with” them — a part that’s been tricked and screwed often before.

Only thing that it would have cost him to say, “Sure, I’d be happy to talk to James Dobson. He’s done wonderful work for America’s families, and I’m sure we’d find that we share the same core values” — I say, the only thing it would cost him is his PRIDE.

Do you want Dole Campaign II?

That’s what I’m starting to see. No fire in the belly = no White House.

Please, at least think about it.


119 posted on 10/04/2007 6:28:52 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Neville72
Dobson certainly has the right to his opinion as well as a right to express it. My Mom used to remind me frequently that being ‘right’ is not the same as doing the ‘right thing’ and this is a perfect example of what she meant!

Satan must be delighted with how Rev. Dobson got a real case of hummin’-gator (that’s when you let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass!). It’s statements like this, made in this holier-than-thou tone, that make Christians such and easy target for Lefties.

I admire Rev. Dobson, but he needs to understand that along with is widespread recognition comes a large dose of responsibility to use that recognition in a way that builds up, not tears down, the Christian faith.

I don’t know if Fred Thompson is a Christian or not. I know for a fact that if Mitt Romney is the Mormon they say he is that he is not a Christian in the same way Billy Graham is a Christian, or the Pope is a Christian.

Frankly, where Fred Thompson will spend eternity is of little consequence to me when it comes to my support of him for office. On a personal level I am VERY concerned about where he will spend eternity, as I am about any human being, but in my opinion it’s not a matter that Rev. Dobson should be addressing.

120 posted on 10/04/2007 6:29:44 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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