JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]

On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

[Al Simmons]

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.

[LdSentinal]

No, he really dropped out because he wife discovered his doctor wasn't the one giving him regular prostate exams.

Oh, so it wasn't a potentially fatal cancer that needed treatment.

[3D-JOY]

I agree with your points.

I am just afraid that she has a way of “calling in her markers” and getting the nomination after all.

I have been at her street protesting and watching the parade of people there for fundraisers for other candidates. Their debt must be substantial.

[stylecouncilor]

ping

[3D-JOY]

Check #431

[no dems]

Read the beginning of his thread.

[flashbunny]

“I laughed! I cried! It was much better than Cats!”

Plus 10 points for SNL hypnotist commercial reference.

[Brandie]

LMAO you are just too funny.

This is a conservative forum so why on earth would the owner of this forum support a Liberal. That would make no sense at all. And (whispering) in case you did't know it, Rudy is a LIBERAL.

[SoldierDad]

Just out of curiosity, where at in North Dakota are you from?

[conservative in nyc]

The history of conservative politics in Canada is a good example of just how big it can get. Canada used to have three major parties - the Liberals (socialists), the PCs (once-upon-a-time conservatives) and the NDP (moonbats). The dilemma for the Canadian conservative voter was that the ideologies of any PC candidate was exactly the same as that of any Liberal one, barring minor details. The PC party was a party of Rudies. Voting on a party basis was completely useless - the conservative voter had to examine individual candidates irrespective of party allegiance, to see if any semblance of conservative representation was possible. Eventually, the PC party totally self-destructed, which was a good thing, because who needs two liberal parties anyway? And if American conservatives don't expel their Rudies, the same fate awaits the Republican party.

13 straight years of Liberal Party rule was not a good thing for Canada. It wasn't good for the Canadian military, which was decimated by Liberal budget cuts. It wasn't good for the Canadian taxpayer, whose taxes were raised by the Liberal government. And it wasn't good for Canadian conservatives, whose taxes were used to pay for useless "multicultural" programs and who had same-sex marriage rammed down their throats, first by liberal, activist judges on the courts, then by some provinces, and ultimately by the Liberals in the federal government. About the only Canadians that 13 years of Liberal rule WAS good for were members of the Liberal Party of Canada, who made a fortune through government graft and corruption.

Since the Canadian schism (which actually occurred before the 1993 election, and entailed Western conservatives walking away from the PC and starting their own party), despite the PC and Reform parties getting back together, Conservatives still have not been able to get elect majority government. They are running the country (albeit fairly successfully so far) on a tightrope, and simply cannot pass as much conservative reform as most conservatives would want due to lack of votes.

Canada is NOT a model to be looking at, unless you want conservatives to spend over a decade in the wilderness here.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

If we conservatives want to make a difference we have two realistic options: Vote for the Republican candidate or not vote at all and let the DemonRats win elections.

This kind of dilemma in the voter is exactly what allowed Canadian politics to be dominated by moonbats and slightly-to-the-right of moonbats for decades. Canadian conservative voters eventually solved this problem by destroying the so-called PC conservative party.

Rudy may not be a conservative, but he is conservative enough for me to vote for

That's just what Canadian PC party strategists were relying on. When the conservative voter is offered a choice between moonbat and slightly-right moonbat, they figured the conservative would always choose the slightly-right moonbat. But eventually this backfired when conservatives began to massively support hard-core conservative Reform, and grass-roots movements.

[conservative in nyc]

One clarification - the Reform Party actually ran candidates in the 1988 election, but didn’t win any ridings.

[TigersEye]

That sure sounds like Fred Thompson is 100% Pro-Life to me. What else is there to grade him on that would mean anything politically? Good work, Politicalmom.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

Canada is NOT a model to be looking at

It's not a model, it's an omen.

[ladyinred]

Bye Al.

[supercat]

2. Romney is probably more liberal than Giuliani.

On what basis do you reach that conclusion? While I'll readily admit to having some significant doubts about whether Romney is as conservative as he's trying to appear, I really doubt that he's anywhere nearly as liberal as Giuliani. What makes you think he is?

[TigersEye]

You’re getting excessively personal. I simply said that the post was stupid.

post #224 CP: More likely, you just can’t read very well.

Nothing personal there. /s

[Tall_Texan]

I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else.

The two statement, together, must be factually untrue. If you have made up your mind about who you will vote for and you do not care about anyone else, you would not:

a) attempt to persuade anyone on how they should vote or
b) care whether they preferred your candidate or not.

Honestly, I don't know who I am voting for except I'm not voting for a Treasocrat and I'm not voting for McCain. I'd bet you the Mitt supporters and the McCain supports (if any exist here) would get the same response you label as a "goon squad" if they were the front runner. Could it be the bashfest on Rudy has more to do with Rudy being the leader in the polls and less to do with some organized "goon squad" sent out by JimRob?

[right way right]

Hold Muh Beer!
Hey Everyone!

LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to see you go like that AL! Damn!

[kalee]

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[Ceebass]

I don’t vote for most republicans, I use them as proxies to vote against the democrats.

If Rudy is the last man standing so be it. I won’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.