Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons
About me:
Lurker - since 1998
Member - since 1999
In self-imposed exile - since April 2007
The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.
He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.
Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.
If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.
But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.
The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.
Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.
So, go ahead Jim -
MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.
Pixel abuse. Shame on you.
The Jerks were my favorite band in 1983.
You can’t have an opus without... well... an Opus!
Count me in, too. It’s high time you swept the forum clean of some accumulated crumbs. Keep up the good work!
Which part of it is not true?
For a long time, we tried to debate the Rudy supporters. People posted honest, issue related material, but were called these rotten names, ganged up on, and given the “You want to elect Hillary” mantra. The Rudeniks never tried to answer the challenges to Rudy’s record or his dreadful personal life. They just gave us the same repeated sarcasms about how the right doesn’t matter, that we’d better join with them as they took over the party, and finally, that everybody agreed with them because Rudy led in the polls. It was the same stuff stated a different way from nearly all of them.
Then people started getting angry, and posting pictures of Rudy in drag, as an attempt to fight back. They were accused of spamming. As time progressed any lengthy post opposing Giuliani, no matter how original, was called “spam” by these people. I got called a nazi, a stalin, a fuhrer..great stuff. It was like arguing with a bunch of left wing radicals. I’ve never seen the kiddies at DU act up like this, and I confess I’ve never visited the Daily Kos.
Finally, two things happened. Threads segregated into entirely pro or anti-Rudy, or else we all mixed it up in outright verbal warfare. Jim’s big thread was a battle cry for many of us, because we saw that our leader was willing to get it on with these people, who had been absolutely vicious for many months. I don’t miss a one of them.
For the remaining Rudy supporters, we, or least, I remain willing to have a discussion with you. But please knock off the tantrums, the cliches, the ad hominems, and the name calling favored by the left. The rant used by this typical Rudy loving jerk to start this thread is a great example, with his “brownshirt” accusation.
And stop the projection, guys. Most of us have been very tolerant and civil with you. I know Mr. Robinson put up with it for months and months.
“B/S. Thompson has a 100% pro life record, You can drop that anti-Thompson pro-Rudy propaganda now.”
Maybe Kenny Bunk is confusing Fred Thompson with Tommy Thompson.
I said what I’m about to say in the long thread, I’ll repeat it here, I don’t know that these people who are causing such ca-ca here are out-and-out liberals in their heart of hearts as Giuliani is, I’ve conversed with some of them in the past and got no indication of that. I think the reason they’re so bent out of shape here is, as I said, there is a such a sense of fear out there at the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency to where it’s like some people are saying “OHMIGOD, WE’VE GOT TO NOMINATE SOMEONE, EVEN IF IT’S FRANKENSTEIN’S MONSTER, WHO ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE PLANET CAN BEAT HILLARY!” And they’re convinced Giuliani is it. Also, I think Islamic terrorism is such a concern for some people ... and please everybody, save your flames, I’m not making light of that threat in any shape, form or fashion ... to where it’s their No. 1 issue above everything else in this or any known solar system, and again they’re convinced Giuliani is the man to lead that war.
Well said!
No kidding. This is bizarre. Meaningful and passionate discussion is one thing, but this is craziness.
You know who might give a crap...the UN. Maybe you should file a grievance...Crimes against Rudy, or something.
Wow last I looked the tread was locked at about 50 posts, must have opeded it back up.
This is the first Rudy thread I’ve been on. I only entered because of Peach being banned.
I don’t know exactly what she said, but she somehow impugned Reagan, as I understand it, in an effort to justify Rudy’s position on abortion.
I will vote for any Republican candidate... ANY ... even McCain (who I think is a little insane) rather than anyone on the dem side.
Right now, I’m hoping for Fred, but what good does it do us to drag down anyone on our side????
I wouldn't want to look at the Supreme Court if we hadn't! With a few more seats coming up, now waddawedo?
I saw Rudy the other day. He was shopping in Victoria Secrets for some new bras and panties.......
I fell off my chair when I saw that pic...LOL
Go get him Anna! LOL
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