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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: EternalVigilance

I’m just sure you’re SURPRISED!

not!


9,581 posted on 04/25/2007 4:05:13 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: The Coopster

You see, unlike many who still remain here, I recognize that not everyone thinks exactly alike, and it doesn’t make them evil, stupid, or traitorous.
***I still remain here, and I KNOW that I don’t think exactly like everyone else. Your post is incredibly full of exaggeration — thinking EXACTLY alike, EVIL/Stupid/Traitor. You’re just raising your own blood pressure. If you don’t agree with the core principles that drive this forum, just admit it; be up front about it. There are plenty of liberals who post here, but they don’t try to HIDE the fact that they’re liberals. If it’s something that’s being hidden, that is a big clue as to its propriety. Once you accept that part of yourself, you won’t feel the need to CHANGE the inhabitants who are comfortable with those founding principles. You can promote your liberal candidate and defend him as best as you can, but you would know innately that you’d be expected to be civil about it. Now, I just noticed that I said “you” a lot in this post, but what I really mean to say is more towards other rudophiles & say “y’all”.


9,582 posted on 04/25/2007 4:05:18 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: mkjessup
Thanks for the Freepmail Spiff, and the cool BugZapper graphic is EXcellent!

BZZZZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!

We could make T-Shirts. They could say "I Survived the Free Republic 'Bug Zapper' Thread - Spring 2007" On the back would be dead bugs with the names of the zapped rudybugs.

9,583 posted on 04/25/2007 4:05:18 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: blackie
Be Ever Vigilant!!

Must be to win.
9,584 posted on 04/25/2007 4:06:35 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

One shot.


9,585 posted on 04/25/2007 4:06:44 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: RadioAstronomer
>> I am over 18,000 LOL!

Were any of them conservative?

9,586 posted on 04/25/2007 4:07:21 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: bjs1779

I am unhappy to see what this thread has degenerated into. I don’t like to see people use foul language and dwell on negative things. I have promoted FReeRepublic and conservative causes with time and money since the 2000 recount, and my actions and posts speak for themselves.


9,587 posted on 04/25/2007 4:07:23 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Brad's Gramma

I will add your name. I just pinged people I knew to be against Rudy. There are probably better lists.


9,588 posted on 04/25/2007 4:07:56 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Kevmo
That means rudy would run LEFT during the general. And Hildebeast would be running right.

Maybe they'd collide and knock each other out.

9,589 posted on 04/25/2007 4:11:14 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Bigh4u2

It might very well happen. But that would then fall under the first part of my original statement which is: it’s NOYB.

And I generally don’t get between friends that are in disagreement. That’s why you won’t hear me saying much about individual bannings.

What you will hear me say is things that are in line with the post I repeated from HairOfTheDog. It’s sad, silly and asinine that it has come to all this. And even though I understand that folks may feel very strongly about one issue or another, to defend the rudeness and childish behavior as somehow “returning to conservative principles” is absolutely ridiculous.

You can be passionate and firm in your beliefs without being a horse’s rear end.


9,590 posted on 04/25/2007 4:11:28 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster

“You can be passionate and firm in your beliefs without being a horse’s rear end.”

Yes you can.

And if the Rudy supports hadn’t been, they would still be here.


9,591 posted on 04/25/2007 4:13:17 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: RobFromGa

“Sycophantic bullies”? Maybe, just maybe Jim is tired of having his site used to promote a candidate that goes against the very reason for its existence. And then when the inevitable heated debates start, the Rudy supporters show obvious disdain for conservatives who will not accept a liberal nominee. “knuckledraggers, sychophants, morons”, etc.

This is NOT a GOP website, and never has been.

While I certainly do not agree purging moderate republicans from FR is a good idea, many of these “moderates” chose suicide by cop. Read Katie-O’s opus. That tells you all you need to know how many felt about “socons” and “purists”.

Just visualize how I would be dealt with if I went to th eLog Cabin republicans website and started spouting off how great Duncan Hunter is and how his anti-gay agenda policies are really best for the country and the GOP.


9,592 posted on 04/25/2007 4:13:54 PM PDT by pissant
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To: RobFromGa

Rob, you do not have anything to prove to anyone. Stay well my friend.


9,593 posted on 04/25/2007 4:14:30 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: RobFromGa; Miss Marple

I stumbled at one of your later posts, seen replies and followed down to this one. I was always proud that the level of discourse on FR is so much superior to anything on the Left. This thread proved me wrong.

Re: to your posts ##9346, 9395, 9405. You are right, they are wrong. It is not a discussion, its yelling and screaming, and cheering for banning people who contributed time and intelligence to making FR a preeminent conservative forum. BTW, I also do not plan to vote for Rudy in primaries. I am so sorry that my joke of a tagline is the modus-operandi for so many people.


9,594 posted on 04/25/2007 4:14:33 PM PDT by Tolik (If you don't agree with me 102% of the time, you're a RINO)
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To: RobFromGa
I am unhappy to see what this thread has degenerated into. I don’t like to see people use foul language and dwell on negative things. I have promoted FReeRepublic and conservative causes with time and money since the 2000 recount, and my actions and posts speak for themselves.

Sure. I think the reason you are unhappy is because your pals our getting a little discipline for a change. That's is the only reason that I can see as to why you even showed up here.

9,595 posted on 04/25/2007 4:15:07 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

!!BZZZZZZZZZZTT!!...;0)


9,596 posted on 04/25/2007 4:16:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Kevmo

A. I’m not a “rudophile”.

B. See my posts above about how you can be true to your cause without being a horse’s rear end.

I may have exaggerated when it comes to your particular case, but I’ll bet we could find folks who have made those exact comments.

And you are right. It’s not for folks thinking EXACTLY like the folks in question. It’s even more ridiculous - it’s for disagreeing on maybe just a few things, after which they are branded as liberals, when their history clearly shows otherwise.

I’m not trying to change anyone. And if my posts about people acting like angst-ridden teenagers raise your blood pressure, then maybe I hit a little close to home, and I apologize.


9,597 posted on 04/25/2007 4:17:18 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Tolik
It is not a discussion, its yelling and screaming, and cheering for banning people who contributed time and intelligence to making FR a preeminent conservative forum.

I take it you were never on the receiving end of the abuse many of them dished out over a very long period of time. I wonder why not?

9,598 posted on 04/25/2007 4:17:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Probably time to move the horses and hobbits to greener pasture. The Phelps gang will shoot if you waste too much bandwidth on their reduced budget.


9,599 posted on 04/25/2007 4:17:30 PM PDT by debg
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To: RobFromGa; Miss Marple
This is all very, very ungood. Ungood for FR, especially.

I've been trying to write a recap post, but I can't get it done.

I will try to stick to non-Presidential politics threads from now on.

9,600 posted on 04/25/2007 4:17:48 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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