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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Delphinium
How did Daily Kos get a copy of the e-mail Jim sent to you?

It leads off their thread.

7,081 posted on 04/24/2007 11:23:55 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Al Simmons
I HAVE SPOKEN MY PEACE AND I’M OUTTA HERE.

For realsies this time?

7,082 posted on 04/24/2007 11:23:58 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Bigh4u2
I think Jim should leave Al’s account active. Just to TORTURE him! LOL!

That's what he did with TexasForever even after he posted some of the vilest insults imaginable early in this thread. Jim refused to close TF's account. LOL!

7,083 posted on 04/24/2007 11:24:18 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: dirtboy

I agree. There is always the counterfeit. Lies and lies of omission and always wrapped up in some truth. Unless a church is totally based on the Word of God, it is a counterfeit. But most pick and choose what to teach/believe. But, then again, there are counterfeits in all walks of life. And the bible warns us of it. Unless one is grounded in The Truth, one cannot see the counterfeit.


7,084 posted on 04/24/2007 11:24:25 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“But in the last couple of months, everything I hold dear has been under attack under the banner of defeatism, that belief that conservatism is dead, that we have to get over it and move on, that social liberalism is the answer to our rebirth, and that if I don’t see it I’m stupid, ignorant, and responsible for the death of the unborn.”

Lets welcome the changes. They are already working!


7,085 posted on 04/24/2007 11:24:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Who is the “Limbaugh staffer” referenced in that post?


7,086 posted on 04/24/2007 11:24:34 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Al Simmons; Jim Robinson

BUT THIS IS MY LAST FR POST - EVER.


Bump to a “FIXIN’ TO GET READY TO QUIT!” post.


7,087 posted on 04/24/2007 11:24:58 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Al Simmons
"Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause."

On the contrary, I believe he is trying to save it. Goodbye, Al Simmons - I hope you'll come back when Senator Thompson wins the nomination.

7,088 posted on 04/24/2007 11:25:22 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: presently no screen name; Jim Robinson
It's not a try - IT'S the TRUTH! You said it yourself that you are NOT STANDING on Godly principles; yet, "as a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God". Your motives are OTHERWISE and; therefore, YOU NEED to be BANNED. You are a disruptor!

Context you idiot, context.

I did not invoke 'Godly principles' in my post because there was no need for it. YOU, oh identity-crisis'd one, was the one to start babbling about that, and if you had really read my posts, you would know that I am as pro-God as they come.

Your hysterical bleating only demonstrates that you're running out of arguments.

Let's go back to the post that started this, #6731 when YOU said to dmw:

IMO, to call a true conservative a liberal is defaming them. What proof do you have that she is a crazy liberal? Why do you do that; and, moreso, when they cannot respond? Why are you adding more fuel to the fire? What part of "Do unto others as you want them to do unto you" don't you agree with? If you are TRULY standing behind 'Godly principles' where does that, His Words, fit in?

And in post 6763, I called you on your faux-righteousness when I said:
"Don't you go invoking that whole 'Godly principles' gambit in defense of a turncoat like MThatcher. In a perfect world, she would be slapped with a restraining order prohibiting her from using the name of the second greatest Prime Minister in British history. She sullies Lady Thathcer every time she posts with her moniker. Shame on her, and shame on you for defending the indefensible."

Then in post 6827 you went totally apesh*t, screaming in cap letters, saying

"Don't YOU EVER TELL ME what is indefensible or REPRIMAND me! More so, when you are claiming you are standing on 'Godly principlies' you don't even WANT THEM MENTIONED!"

And I responded to you in 6838, with:

"I never said I was standing on Godly principles, that's what YOU invoked in your post defending the indefensible MThatcher."

Anyone can see that at the best, you can't even keep up with what you're talking about, at the worst, you've made a lame attempt at baiting me to try to get me banned, and I'm sure JimRob will see that.

You need to calm down and stop screaming.

Oh wait, you're a liberal, you can't help yourself.

Carry on.
7,089 posted on 04/24/2007 11:25:25 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Iwo Jima
Who is the “Limbaugh staffer” referenced in that post?

The EIB cleaning lady?

7,090 posted on 04/24/2007 11:25:48 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy
Yep, many posted here for years and I guess thought they could work to incrementally drag the site leftward.

I don't think it's any sort of planned conspiracy.

I think they wanted desperately to see a GOP candidate in the White House in 2009.

Many feel only Giuliani could at least make it a horse race...given the machine driving the LEFT. We sure don't want another Robert Dole-type candidate heading the GOP ticket, do we?

I sincerely hope Fred Thompson announces soon. At least he has the popularity and charisma to take on the Clintons...if she heads their ticket.

And let's face it...Laura Bush excepted...we haven't had a hottie 1st Lady since 1961. LOL!

7,091 posted on 04/24/2007 11:26:04 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: 68 grunt

“Nah, just the mouth-breating brown shirts - lol”

lol, kind like pansy-wansy grunts.


7,092 posted on 04/24/2007 11:26:23 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: 68 grunt

“Nah, just the mouth-breating brown shirts - lol”

lol, kind like pansy-wansy grunts.


7,093 posted on 04/24/2007 11:26:44 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: flashbunny

holy cow...don’t flip flop! ;o)


7,094 posted on 04/24/2007 11:27:49 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Elyse
I don't have the time or energy to "look back" through your posts to see who you support. It's so evident who you DON'T want, so I'm curious who you DO want. Frankly, it would've been the perfect opportunity to "sell" your candidate to some of the undecideds here who are still shopping around, like me.
7,095 posted on 04/24/2007 11:28:23 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: Miss Marple

He can’t even fix his own socialist country, why do I want him on here screwing with mine?


7,096 posted on 04/24/2007 11:28:24 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: beltfed308
Greedy is an understatement with all the incessant "poll" posts...

I was on a very early ping list for Rudy.

After I started getting sometimes a half-dozen a day... everyday, I asked to be taken off.

7,097 posted on 04/24/2007 11:28:39 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: The Blitherer

Well, it seems that Rudy has the drama queen vote in the bag.


7,098 posted on 04/24/2007 11:29:57 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: cicero's_son; MadIvan

At least our “Dear Leader” is an American and a veteran, not some freakish British goth with stability issues.


7,099 posted on 04/24/2007 11:30:46 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: flashbunny

rofl


7,100 posted on 04/24/2007 11:30:48 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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