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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Reagan Man; Spiff
Al didn’t bother to ping me either. I’m so saddened.

Slackard. Your pennance is to post pictures of Rudy in drag into the next 100 Rudy poll threads on FR.

And Spiff, you gotta post your chart into those threads as well.

Me, I gotta take my shirts to the cleaners. Brown doesn't look good wrinkled.

6,981 posted on 04/24/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Elyse
Did you not read what I posted regarding zero's comment? And, FYI, I asked who Elyse was supporting in the presidential race in 2008.

I'm seeking information so I can make a responsible decision in this next election, which could be the most important one in my life time. I'm trying to educate myself, like a good conservative should, about my options.

I know who Elyse can't stand - He Who Shall Not Be Named - and would like to know who she supports (and obviously Cheney was the wrong answer, Charles, since he's not running).

The facts would be nice, without hyperbole if possible.

6,982 posted on 04/24/2007 10:56:53 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: Enosh; Jim Robinson
That's right you MORON. I have OFFICIALLY RESIGNED from here, so don't expect to hear from me again.

You're slow on the trigger Jim - I'm no longer daring you to ban me.

I HAVE SENT YOU MY LETTER OF RESIGNATION.

So do me the favor of showing your recent efficiency in this area BY DELETING MY ACCOUNT.

6,983 posted on 04/24/2007 10:57:21 AM PDT by Al Simmons
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To: pissant

We’ll see. But I think you know better on both counts. Rudy can get the nomination-—pretty easily, too, if Fred doesn’t run-—and Hunter has less chance than Kinky Friedman.


6,984 posted on 04/24/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Tarnsman

If you go for your perception of victory over conservative values don’t blame me for the end result.


6,985 posted on 04/24/2007 10:57:35 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: LS
Just got back from Idaho, where I was told your once-Libertarian governor has now become mainstream Republican and where the Boise area is now considered 50/50 red/blue. Yep, sounds like a real conservative trend to me.

The Boise area was the ONLY bright spot for Democrats in the entire state. They were CRUSHED everywhere else and in every way.

You're completely misrepresenting reality. What a shock. /s

6,987 posted on 04/24/2007 10:58:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: LS
Your whole argument falls apart with one vial of VX gas.

Tell me - how many would be killed in such an attack? Five thousand?

Now how many childred are aborted every day in the US? About three thousand.

So in the time this thread has been up, the number of abortions is equivalent to the fatalities from a chemical attack on the US.

So much for the pro-life argument falling part in the face of terrorism. There are plenty of GOP candidates who are solid on both issues.

6,988 posted on 04/24/2007 10:58:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: rbmillerjr
I'll put it to you the way my CONSERVATIVE editor put it to me:

I'm a one-issue voter: Pro-torture. That pretty well sums up a lot of people's feelings. If you don't begin by protecting the lives of the living, there is no pro-life movement. And that's a fact.

6,989 posted on 04/24/2007 10:58:59 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

No, I think you misjudge the size of the anti-Rudy, conservative lobby, that is just beginning to sink its teeth into his arse. He has little chance. And FWIW, Fred will run.


6,990 posted on 04/24/2007 10:59:03 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Al Simmons

Loser.


6,991 posted on 04/24/2007 10:59:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: Al Simmons
I have OFFICIALLY RESIGNED from here,

Then why are you still posting?

It's a damn shame irony is lost on liberals like you. Y'all sure generate more than your fair share of it.

6,992 posted on 04/24/2007 10:59:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy
I'd rather have a secularist who adheres to core conservative values than a Christian who is a flaming liberal.

It might be a sin, but I'm with you on this one. Nothing annoys me more than a fellow Christian going around doing things that will hand power to the forces of evil in the long run. Every Christian ought to take a world history course untainted by liberal bias so that all the flaming libs in the church can see what leftism ultimately results in.
6,993 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Al Simmons; CharlesWayneCT

Charles, I think you can probably go ahead and add our buddy Al to that special list you’re keeping.


6,994 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:07 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Tarnsman

The only way Shrillary gets elected is if Republicans stupidly nominate Rudy, who will not win his home state.


6,995 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:20 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: dirtboy

It wouldn’t be one. It would be the first of many that would dwarf anything NARAL ever dreamed of. Time to really get your head out of the sand on this.


6,996 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:20 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

Are the unborn not considered the living?
Your arguement does not hold water. Either all life is precious and worthy of protection, or it is not.
Some of us are not “more worthy” of protection than others - unless you are a liberal that is.


6,997 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:29 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: mkjessup; Jim Robinson
Nice try, no cigar

It's not a try - IT'S the TRUTH! You said it yourself that you are NOT STANDING on Godly principles; yet, "as a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God". Your motives are OTHERWISE and; therefore, YOU NEED to be BANNED. You are a disruptor!

Jim, I think it's time to take out the real garbage.
6,998 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:44 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: justshutupandtakeit

OK. Well, she never responded to my question but she has now stated (according to a previous post on this thread) on another forum that he is working for the Rudy campaign in Oklahoma. She made several comments on this forum before leaving that led other posters here to infer that she was working for his campaign. When I asked her if she was working for Rudy’s campaign you said that I had “impuned her integrity”.


6,999 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:45 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: Al Simmons
I have OFFICIALLY RESIGNED from here, so don't expect to hear from me again.

Promise? Or are you just the American version of Mad Ivan?
7,000 posted on 04/24/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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