Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Hey, I’m not turning anyone away. They’re opussing or committing FReepercide because they can’t handle the truth about Rudy’s (insert laundry list here). Surely you don’t expect me to rollover and play dead while the big shot republican liberals destroy our conservative causes do you? No thanks. I’ll be fighting tooth and nail 24/7.
Keep screaming it. Maybe if you scream loud enough, you’ll drown out all voices of reason and convince yourself.
NEWSFLASH: Everyone hated him at some point in his tenure as mayor. Some, both libs and conservatives, hated him all the way though. He was certainly no conservative hero to any of us that lived there while he was mayor.
But what I'm truly shocked to learn on this thread is that "Rudy-mania" appears to be a mental disorder.
LOL. Silly. That’s not garbage. :)
I’ve been thinking about all these opuses. Yah, I know, the plural of opus is opera. Some of these opera have a melodramatic, soap opera quality to them. On the drive home I was thinking about what I could do to counter the ill will being generated and try to figure out what socons in good standing can say, other than “Good Bye”. The whining, sickening, grating tone of the opera would need to be reversed into a positive, edifying, and hopeful tone. Instead of crying about what is going wrong with Free Republic, it would be a reinforcement about what is going RIGHT with Free Republic.
What should I call such a message? “Opus” is a Latin word for “work”. So I started with looking for a latin word for “play”. I found this well written article for the entymology:: http://www.erasmatazz.com/library/JCGD_Volume_8/Play_Mentation.html The English word “lechery” is the only surviving remnant in English of the Old Germanic root” leik, leikan”, to play. Also striking is the fact that the Latin word for play, ludere, survives in English in”lewd”. Ok, strike that idea. So how about OpusBAR, or OppoOpus, or counter-opus, reverse osmopus, or Nopus, or Opthem or some similar play on words? Well, none of them rang clear. One that I like is to write out Opus backwards: SUPO. And since we see so many opera from freepers like Pukin Dog who leave & return multiple times, we would need to come up with a good plural for the word. Going back to Latin, I came up with Supoii, which would be a person’s second Supo, and Supoiii would be their third, Supoiv their fourth, Supov & Supovi their 5th & 6th respectively, etc. I would encourage other social conservatives to start posting Supo on this thread.
So here’s Kevmo’s first Supo,
Kevmo SUPOI
Free Republic is great! When I signed up 9 years ago, just 2 months after JimRob’s signon date, it seemed like it wasn’t going to be around for very long. It was kinda hokey, and there were a lot of conspiracy theorists, and there was a nervousness in the air about the Clinton’s clamping down on their political adversaries. Even my stupid login name reflected this transient approach to it all. I couldn’t think of what to log on with, and I didn’t want to be Kevin O’Malley because I’d be painting a target on my back, I didn’t want to be audited for my political outspokenness, so that was my login: Don’t Wanna Be Audited. I know, I know, lame. But I noticed that the whole underlying premise for the place was a respect for the constitution, it was pro-life, pro-God, Pro-2nd Amendment, Pro-Lotsa things that I felt kinship with. It was people who thought like me. I felt I was at home in a political sense. There was also this seething anger towards what the Clintons had done to the office of the presidency, and I identified with that. I was impressed that someone like Jim Robinson went to so much trouble and used the gifts God gave him to create an atmosphere where social conservatives could feel comfortable. I haven’t had all that much time to devote to my little hobby here at Free Republic.
Since I signed on I have finished up school, started my career (very late bloomer, long story), bought a house, got involved in local church leadership, watched my 2 kids be born, went to both of my parents’ funerals, and many of the other ups & downs that are normal in life. I got caught in the Free Republic Database Snafu and lost my login for awhile, then couldn’t even remember what the login name was, went into Lurker mode for a time and then signed up again with my real name, Kevin OMalley. I didn’t think much about my login until Joe Six Pack posted this on New Year’s Eve 2004: Disenfranchised Freeper been here 6 years 4 months 3 million hours, 12 days and a leap year http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/1311585/posts. Then when Dan Rather was brought down by Freepers, a low Freeper number became a coveted item and I decided to reclaim my old login. JimRob was very gracious in letting me change my stupid login name to something more like a nickname. “Kevmo” was some kind of musician that a coworker had listened to, he was calling me Kevmo and it kinda stuck so I went with that as my login.
I’m amazed that more than a quarter of a million people have signed up for posting privileges on FR. It has become and will continue to be the premiere news forum on the web, and that is in no small part due to the underlying social conservative principles that drive its founder and others who pour their blood, sweat & tears into this Opus of unselfish love. There’s one freeper whose tag line says something like, when he reads a newspaper he scans down to the bottom to read the comments and that is about where I’m at with my comfort level of FR. It is like reading the paper and then going into a harangue that everyone hears. If you can express yourself at least as good as the average half wit, you might be able to affect the present discourse. It is SO COOL. Thanks, JimRob for doing this. I’ve grown so comfortable with FR that, basically for the last 7 or 8 years, I haven’t even subscribed to a newspaper. I hardly ever watch TV News. But my wife notices that I’m way ahead on the news cycles compared to her friends. She sometimes will ask me about “what that website has to say” about such & such item in the news lately. When I first came home talking about Clinton’s mistress & how all this stuff was an impeachable offense for Clinton, she asked me if that was just some conspiracy theory I heard of and if maybe there were other “normal” people who had heard about it. About a MONTH later, other people started talking about it. Now, I’m usually only about 2 days ahead of the cycle, so everyone else has caught up to Free Republic. But we’re still often at the bleeding edge.
Free Republic is a place where people pray for you, give advice, don’t take nonsense, and help keep your wits sharpened. There appears to have been some folks who are die-hard republicans and signed up with the hopes of changing social conservative viewpoints. That was a mistake because those are bedrock principles, not negotiable checklist items. How can you tell when you’re up against bedrock principles vs. negotiable bargaining chips? When you’re in a discussion and the other side simply walks out or holds their ground & calls them deal killers.
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.
Well, I don’t want to rant on for too long. Free Republic is a great place and JimRob will allow dissent as long as it is truth-filled and respectful. People don’t lose their posting privileges just because they support one candidate over another – they lose their privileges over HOW they choose to support that candidate. If I wanted to support my socially conservative candidate, Duncan Hunter, on a social liberal website, it would behoove me to be polite about it, answer the questions posted to me, keep to the truth, and be respectful.
Since we’re on JimRob’s site and it is his private property, we don’t need to quibble about the definition of conservative, we just use his basic definition of social conservative:
As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
If you signed up on Free Republic but aren’t aligned with that definition, you should at least be honest with yourself when you engage in debate. You don’t have to be a socon to post on this socon site. But you should not try to re-define social conservatism for your own purposes. It won’t work.
The queen of the bogus opus. She could live as long as the 12th Imam and never quit this place.
“Never have I said I was a lady. I’m a woman. Too many prim rules in being a lady.”
I’ll attest to that!! pph set me straight about that on a Ann Coulter thread a while back! Remember?
It just hit me........
All your replies have been nothing but civil and respectful.
How dare you infect this thread with such a demeanor!
Some are, most aren’t. If they are gonna come over here to argue with us about why our conservatism sucks, and why liberal Rudy is the guy we should support, then as JR has said again and again, this ain’t the place for them. Is that so hard for them to understand? It seems it is.
I sure hope you continue your resolve on what you’ve started here. I’m leaning more towards Huckaby or hoping Newt would consider a real campaign to win.
Here’s the daily “no longer with us” list.
I found out they are trying to keep a list over at something called “darwin central”. I don’t know if this banning stuff is evolution, or the survival of the fittest, or what, but I guess a few of the fallen are regulars over at that site, whatever it is. There list includes people who have said they are leaving but did it politely enough not to get suspended.
I’ve only included names that show up as “banned or suspended”. Most of the new ones begged to be removed from the site.
There are too many names on this list. I don’t know most of them, and it does sadden me. I don’t know why, I just hate change. I’m a conservative, in every sense of that word. I wish we could all get along.
Anyway, here goes:
Fierce Allegiance
writeblock
Mia T.
FairOpinion
quidnunc
Peach
KATIE-O
habs4ever
Luis Gonzalez
CeltJew Libertarian
stuned beeber
liberty4alland4ever
WestVirginiaRebel
NGRY
AZRepublican
PRND21
zarf
kellynch
motzman
B-bone
M. Thatcher
King Prout
Does this thread make you remember This "Oldie But Goodie" Thread?
LOL
(The little "60 posts" thread that went over 1600 posts. lol)
I like the idea, but think an “Auto-Opus Generator” would make it great ;’}
Wow, what a short Opus you have.
Excellent post.
You've presented me a point to ponder, especially apropos to 'the lesser of evils'. I think you may be right, and that four years of demoncrap control would be better than two socialist parties, two versions of the same theme. Here's the rebuttal, though, what about if you your four years of demoncrap corruption, which will ensure four more years of demoncrap corruption, which will ensure demoncrap corruption in the legislature and the placement of demoncrap agents in the judicial, AND, what if the other party continues its movement toward socialism? Ah, nevermind, its too late anyway ...
LOL how right you are about that. So much of the garbage written (meaning crudeness, foul language) here does not match the debates of years past. I know I’ll be flamed with can’t take it then get out.
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