Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
He does seem a bit harsh tonight.
I would like to have the rudy crowd not silenced.
Mia T; Quidnunc and more are suspended or banned.
They support a gun grabbing north-eastern liberal.
They are very anti-clinton, but very pro rudy.
Mia t does an especially good job on clinton.
I like to read their opinions.
Peach has done a hellavu job here, despite her defending Rudy.
I would rather have her here arguing, than not.
The Republicans originally went to Washington, D.C. as a small government, anti-welfare, pro-defence, free market party. In 2006 they went to the polls looking like a corrupt, big government, scandalized, pro-illegal, pro China, pro mega corporation party. Much of this view was deserved.
Demmocrats had nothing in 2004 and 2006. Neither did the Republicans really, and it finally caught up to them in 2006. The Republicans have no one at all to blame but themselves. They haven’t learned a thing, unfortunately.
Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.
I won’t support this “win” just so we can lose the war on socialism. Nope, won’t do it.
Keep up the good work.
Not everyone on FR is nuts, appearances on this thread notwithstanding.
Papa Bush heaps praise on Rudy- (today's NY Daily News)
"Rudy Giuliani won some high praise from President Bush's father yesterday while politicking deep in the heart of Texas. "It was in his courage under fire starting the morning of Sept. 11 that the world saw the best of Rudy Giuliani," former President George H.W. Bush declared, introducing the former mayor to about 2,500 people at Texas A&M University in College Station. "We saw a genuine leader," he said.
Giuliani drew applause with his 30-minute speech in which he tied America's freedom and prosperity to victory in the war on terror. "We're going to have to win the war on terror, or as I call it, the terrorists' war on us," he said. "It's the greatest challenge of our generation."
The Republican party has been moving to the center/left for some time now. It’s not me who hijacked it and I don’t like it and have said so.
Apparently fiscal conservativism and law and order conservatism don’t mean a darned thing and social conservatism is all the rage now and if one thinks that national security trumps all (like I do), then one isn’t a true blue conservative. Gosh, the things we can learn on Free Republic.
I have said for the past 5 years, that we will probably see a third party in'08! I don't hold claim to being a learned scholar in politics.In fact I can't claim much else but common sense! But I DO know RIGHT from WRONG. I do know that what I have seen happen to our land and nation over the past 65 years of my life is not headed UP HILL, but only DOWN... We MUST be strong and couragous!! WE MUST stand for right , even if we are in the minority. Right now, it is too early to say who I would vote for President. I am listening, reading , observing and PRAYING. So far, I would say Duncan Hunter has the qualities and convictions that we hold in this household. Fred Thompson also.But I WILL OBEY GOD no matter what others do, period.
So this is a socially conservative web site. Period?
Hey, if Jim wants to ban all the freepers who think national security trumps social issues, he can have at it and you all enjoy that little echo chamber of yours.
I kinda like Rudy ...but I guess I better keep my mouth shut
You certainly wrote off Fred in a hurry. He’s not even in the race and he’s generating excitement.
Nope, it's called political reality
What happened to nice discussions around here?
When pushed enough I don't play well with others.
That’s so sweet of you to keep track of my schedule. But truly I’m too fascinated by the meltdown to sleep right now.
Rudy has globalism written all over his past and all over his personna. It’s just not as eager, clueless and shrill as HARXIST’s is. Shrillery is merely FAR WORSE on those scores.
Some already have. And then they formed their own damned liberal forum and they even have their own secret squirrel area there where they can plot stuff they're doing over here to disrupt and say bad things about the conservatives on FR.
...well said, and I agree. Gingrich and/or Hunter would serve us best, IMO. The real campaigns haven’t yet begun.
Don't think there was any complaining from this side... just a bunch of name calling from you..."Up yours, dope, stupid"
At least your consistent if nothing else.
That is BS and you would know it if you ever read anything in these threads except what the Rooty Tooters post.
Rooty has never been for the flat tax and he isn’t now.
..... and never underestimate OUR STRENGTH... if we stand together!!
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