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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Bigh4u2

Damn, you nailed the landing with that one.


18,061 posted on 05/02/2007 8:16:40 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Enosh
I considered the “Darth Enosh” thing, but for some reason it makes me think of Mongolian yak butter soup.

That settles is.

You are now Darth Rancid Yak Butter.

Deal with it Sith, and drop and give me 20.

18,062 posted on 05/02/2007 8:17:44 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: metmom

I looked at some of those threads. They didn’t seem like the best place for me. I’m not that thick skinned. DC doesn’t seem like a place where I would fit in either. I don’t believe in evolution, and I’m a strong Christian.


18,063 posted on 05/02/2007 8:21:10 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Hunter/Thompson)
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To: Pinkbell

They wouldn’t have you anyway. They are far less tolerant of dissenting opinion than JR is. Here, they can support evolution. There, you can’t support creation.


18,064 posted on 05/02/2007 8:33:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dirtboy; T'wit
"Darth Rancid Yak Butter"

Serves me right. LOL!

18,065 posted on 05/02/2007 8:39:37 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: gondramB
Thank you for the experienced advice. I can't tell you how much I admire your diet results. That takes a lot of good sense and sticking to it -- more than I usually manage, alas :-)

I got really unhappy with Splenda a few months ago when I read a doctor's report that the stuff DOES have calories. It can be advertised as zero calories under the arcane rules of federal bureaucracy, but it does have a few calories. That made me grumpy, so I went back to Equal for a bit. That made me grumpy about opening too many little blue packets. I'm back to Splenda, calories or not.

18,066 posted on 05/02/2007 8:39:59 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: All

...and another one bites the dust...

areafiftyone got zapped, I read on another thread but no links to his last testimony or opus.


18,067 posted on 05/02/2007 8:45:41 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("...to arms...")
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To: rbmillerjr

A51 is female, and good riddance to her.


18,068 posted on 05/02/2007 8:50:35 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

On what post did she cross the stupid line?


18,069 posted on 05/02/2007 8:52:41 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("...to arms...")
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To: rbmillerjr

I haven’t watched her closely other than her support for Rudy, so I don’t know.

I can guess it was along the logical lines of, “Let’s save America by killing all our babies!”


18,070 posted on 05/02/2007 9:01:37 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: metmom
Thanks for the report. I never go into those other sites. I'm perfectly happy right here. Best [MILD OATH DELETED*] conservative web site going, and still going strong.

*Darned

18,071 posted on 05/02/2007 9:01:49 PM PDT by T'wit (Confidence in science rests on belief in God's order and will not long survive loss of this belief.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Really? Of all the Rudybots, she always seemed the most friendly to me. From what I saw, she pushed Rudy to the bots, but she realized other people accepted different candidates. She only seemed to get angry when she saw people wouldn’t vote for Rudy even if he got the nomination. I haven’t read her posts lately, though, so I don’t know what she did to either get suspended or banned.


18,072 posted on 05/02/2007 9:02:28 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Hunter/Thompson)
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To: EternalVigilance
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18,073 posted on 05/02/2007 9:10:11 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Enosh; dirtboy

I was toying with “Darth Mongolian yak butter soup,” but thought better of it :-) For one thing, it’s an undignified name, and for another, yak butter soup doesn’t sound half bad.


18,074 posted on 05/02/2007 9:13:45 PM PDT by T'wit (If reproductive success is the mainspring of evolutionary advance, why is it so damned clumsy?)
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To: metmom
>> Here, they can support evolution. There, you can’t support creation.

I wonder how fascistic censorship evolved? Free and open inquiry would seem to be a far better survival strategy, not to mention more scientific.

18,075 posted on 05/02/2007 9:19:02 PM PDT by T'wit (If reproductive success is the mainspring of evolutionary advance, why is it so damned clumsy?)
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To: T'wit

This thread seems to really be dying out. It’s good everyone is getting along better. Still, I’ll put a placemarker here.


18,076 posted on 05/02/2007 9:24:05 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Hunter/Thompson)
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To: Centurion2000

C-3PO: His high exaltedness, the Great Jabba the Hutt, has decreed that you are to be terminated immediately.

Han Solo: Good, I hate long waits.

C-3PO: You will therefore be taken to the Dune Sea, and cast into the pit of Carkoon, the nesting place of the all-powerful Sarlaac.

Han Solo: Doesn’t sound so bad.

C-3PO: In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Han Solo: On second thought, let’s pass on that, huh?


18,077 posted on 05/02/2007 9:25:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: T'wit

As in ~ To wit?


18,078 posted on 05/02/2007 9:25:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb (May the way of the hero lead to the triforce! Þ)
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To: betty boop
Considering the universality of the moral law, I wonder what "secular" (finite, contingent, man-made) thing can serve as the basis for moral law.

Indeed. It seems to me they would have a real problem arguing against equal rights for animals, pedophilia, bestiality, infanticide, etc. - or conversely, in favor of personal responsibility.

18,079 posted on 05/02/2007 9:31:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BykrBayb

Shoot, we’ve got more viewership on this thread than MSNBC...

18,078 replies · 405,128+ views

;-)


18,080 posted on 05/02/2007 9:43:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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