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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: si tacuissem
I'm sorry to witness this blood-letting...

No matter what the thoughts of all involved, I think most would agree, it was indeed a sad event. However, I now see it as over, and will look elsewhere and forward.
16,521 posted on 04/30/2007 3:11:13 PM PDT by mutley
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To: ansel12

snicker

Too bad. It’s more fun for them if they perceive that we’re at each other’s throats. Otherwise, it doesn’t give them anything to feed off of.

Hi y’all.


16,522 posted on 04/30/2007 3:11:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Admin Moderator; si tacuissem; NapkinUser; RachelFaith

And at least one freeper was reinstated after getting suspended. Some Freepers quit posting. And some had quit posting before. And at least one has signed up because she feels safe to post.


16,523 posted on 04/30/2007 3:11:32 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: 3D-JOY

16,524 posted on 04/30/2007 3:11:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Petronski
I’m merely pointing out your inability to recognize the obvious import of those words. It’s funny AND sad

Fred?

Horse.
Dead.
Flog.

I'm sure if you want to go searching for things to offend you in this thread, you can find something in the 16,000+ posts far worse than anything I've had to say.

No mea culpas from me. That's the game that liberals play, once you apologize for anything, anything at all, they're on you like a pack of hyenas.

I ain't playin'.
16,525 posted on 04/30/2007 3:12:57 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: tioga
I think it will be locked soon,,,just takin’ some time for some Happy posts,,,

We need a new thread for FR’s “Action-Plan” to go forward
and not dwell in the past...JMHO...;0)

16,526 posted on 04/30/2007 3:13:06 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The founding paragraph of America. Thanks.

16,527 posted on 04/30/2007 3:13:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: commonguymd; mkjessup
You know, despite what some have said on this thread, Howlin is NOT the leader of wideawakes.net. She is a moderator, period. MadIvan is the owner and leader of the site.

Howlin is no more the leader of wideawakes.net than mkjessup is the leader of Free Republic.

16,528 posted on 04/30/2007 3:13:54 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Bill of Rights: The First 10 Amendments to the Constitution as Ratified by the States

December 15, 1791
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


16,529 posted on 04/30/2007 3:13:55 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: EternalVigilance

You know, I don’t really recall seeing any pictures like that of them cleaning up after Flight 93. It’s always been the WTC and some of the Pentagon.

I saw one of the Flight 93 movies. Very powerful.


16,530 posted on 04/30/2007 3:14:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mkjessup
I wasn't offended by the posted words, but I am able to recognize them as vulgar.

You reveal a lot about yourself in this matter.

16,531 posted on 04/30/2007 3:15:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Fred.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Did I ever tell ya I reenact a woman from 1790? Federalist period....


16,532 posted on 04/30/2007 3:15:37 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sodpoodle
It may be the artist, they aren't even all headed in the same direction, and they are stepping off in different lengths of steps. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
16,533 posted on 04/30/2007 3:15:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: EternalVigilance

YES!!! It is really HUGE!

That is the one. It is so battered and torn that I just sat and stared at all it meant.


16,534 posted on 04/30/2007 3:16:37 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: EternalVigilance
You misspelled “healed” in your tagline. In your case, it should have been “heel.”

Please just let them wither and die.
16,535 posted on 04/30/2007 3:17:12 PM PDT by mutley
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To: Knitting A Conundrum


Bump if you love FREE REPUBLIC!
16,536 posted on 04/30/2007 3:17:45 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Bump


16,537 posted on 04/30/2007 3:18:15 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: RunningWolf

An Oldie but Goodie on skill sets for forum categories.

http://www.indianz.com/board/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26791&whichpage=1


16,538 posted on 04/30/2007 3:18:16 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Miss Marple

"Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." The Apostle Paul, Letter to Timothy, II Timothy 2:1-4

16,539 posted on 04/30/2007 3:18:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Chena
Ahhh, but FR lives on, those who left will most likely meander back and those that left a vacancy will give opportunity to those that stood in the shadows. Everyone is replaceable.

Leadership can be difficult, because when you make a statement on direction you get mixed results always, but patience will lend itself to achievement. Set the objective, let the division take its course, and cull the objections to the goal. The goal has been expressed so I don’t need to rehash that.

Progress takes leadership and we have witnessed it. For those that scoff and deride FR, those who think the funding will take a hit, I say let them. Great leaders and great foundations always took the road less traveled and risked finance, risked scorn, and risked relevance. It’s the chance you take, but the movement will be much larger than any one person or website.

Move it right. Win.

16,540 posted on 04/30/2007 3:19:03 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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