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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: La Enchiladita
Anybody watched the “White Chicks and Gang Signs” video on Youtube? Fairly tasteful, actually.
14,561 posted on 04/29/2007 12:21:44 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: woofie

How is anyone here at FR a “like minded sycophant.” We are conservatives who are promoting the same goals put forth in the Republican party platform. Conservatives are not broken glass Republicans. On the contrary we believe in conservatism in all its facits, foreign affairs, economic, fiscal, cultural, etc. If you read the 2006 Republican platform you will see what I mean.

As far as the “fight” is occuring here it is a competition of conservative ideas with liberal ideals. To be sure the arguments are heated, as they are in many political debates. If you are not comfortable with the tone of this debate you are free to go elsewhere where you might be more comfortable. Its a free country, and at least for now, in an open Internet, your choice is as good as mine.


14,562 posted on 04/29/2007 12:21:51 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: Jim Robinson

Slow night?


14,563 posted on 04/29/2007 12:22:19 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: Mojave

“Really? That’s too funny!”

It is?

I thought everyone knew that.


14,564 posted on 04/29/2007 12:22:26 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: EternalVigilance
All conservatives are republicans, and at the moment, most conservatives are Republicans.

You are an idiot aren't you.

14,565 posted on 04/29/2007 12:22:39 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Mojave

Who is that?


14,566 posted on 04/29/2007 12:22:51 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: dmw

You know what, I thought I was done for the night. But you don’t know and, in fact, can’t know what I have said over there. Most has been by internal mail. I have only expressed sadness and regret about this purge. Here and “over there”. Good Lord, stop being an insecure paranoid poster, my FRiend. Now. I’ve known you otherwise. And I have not attacked you or anyone specifically. Please stop. With that, my friendly pillow awaits. Tomorrow, the next day and the one after that, I hope we have friendlier discourse. I promise to start anew. Good Night.


14,567 posted on 04/29/2007 12:23:41 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: staytrue

Why do you say so? My comment is objectively true.


14,568 posted on 04/29/2007 12:24:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance
That just might be the funniest post I’ve ever seen on FR.

You definitely need to get out more, then.

14,569 posted on 04/29/2007 12:24:24 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: dixiechick2000; Mojave

I read that they were putting their anti-freeper threads out in the open where everyone could read them, until they discovered one of them had been posted here. (If it was, I missed it.) Supposedly that’s when they confined their anti-freeping to the private chat room.


14,570 posted on 04/29/2007 12:25:42 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: IrishRainy
You definitely need to get out more, then.

Yeah, maybe I do. It gets a little close in here with you trolls.

14,571 posted on 04/29/2007 12:26:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: rbmillerjr
Who got zotted (besides Howlin) that has you attacking so shrilly like Rosie?

The recent zots have not impacted my disposition one way or another, albeit they have made you euphoric and reckless. I am only responding in kind to your insults and bullying. Nothing more, nothing less. Put that on your naked profile page.

14,572 posted on 04/29/2007 12:26:18 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: BykrBayb
So now you’re saying that the direction FR has taken in the last week or so caused freepers to join an anti-freeper site over a month ago? You’re still not making any sense.

Many of the posters on WideAwakes have joined fairly recently. That forum was pretty slow before this thread began. It has picked up steam over the past week. That's a fact. Darwin Central has also picked up users and viewers, largely thanks to the publicity given to that site on this thread. I never knew that site existed before someone mentioned it here.

Could you be the first established freeper I’ve come across who doesn’t know what an anti-freeper is? No, I’ve seen others, but they were all anti-freepers. Even if you’ve never heard of one, a basic understanding of the English language should help you to figure it out.

I can't say that I've heard the term until this week. I thought it had some sort of special meaning I didn't know about, not the plain English meaning it should have. It turns out that some here seem to think "anti-FReeper" means FReepers or former FReepers who post on websites that those FReepers don't like.
14,573 posted on 04/29/2007 12:26:41 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: EternalVigilance
Now you’re being lame and silly.

No, no... that's not how you professionally duck a question. You answer a slightly different question; one that you're more comfortable addressing. You don't seriously think I'm going to be distracted with "so's your old man" insults, do you?

Personally, I can't consider supporting Keyes for (whatever) public office until he shows he can attract and retain capable shills. I'm astonished that your superiors haven't realized that your behavior here during the past week is more devastating to Keyes' ability to recruit at FR than anything his enemies could have devised.

Well, okay, maybe I'm not that astonished.

We will now return to our regularly scheduled agitprop. Ta ta for now...

14,574 posted on 04/29/2007 12:26:56 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: dixiechick2000; MadIvan; Howlin
“What makes WideAwakes an anti-FReeper site or the new Clown Posse?”

Because of the management, and the fact that they have a “secret room.”


MadIvan is now a persona non grata here? I thought his account was still open? And Howlin wasn't purged until this morning.

WideAwakes wouldn't be the first forum with a "secret room".
14,575 posted on 04/29/2007 12:28:36 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Well, that is what anti-freepers claim it means.


14,576 posted on 04/29/2007 12:28:44 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: conservative in nyc

BTW, some of those Freepers are still posting here. Nothing wrong with that either. Its a free country.


14,577 posted on 04/29/2007 12:30:41 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: ozarkgirl
Like who? Who would be missed?

Well, with that attitude, I can pretty much say you wouldn't.

I'm not going to fall into the name-game trap. It's a matter of personal opinion. Just because mine doesn't match yours does not make it wrong.

Cheers. ;-)

14,578 posted on 04/29/2007 12:31:09 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Frankly, I’ve always enjoyed Mad Ivan, and his posts.
And, I was on his ping list.

“WideAwakes wouldn’t be the first forum with a “secret room”.”

Of course they aren’t.
BUT...WHY would any forum feel the need for a “secret room?”


14,579 posted on 04/29/2007 12:32:24 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Interesting Times

*Yawn*

Have a nice evening.


14,580 posted on 04/29/2007 12:32:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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