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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Jim Robinson
Well, I certainly pray that the Republican voters are smart enough to see through Rudy’s game.

Their judgment is excellent. I trust it. Do you?

1,121 posted on 04/21/2007 11:18:43 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Howlin

It’s so amusing being defined by internet people who don’t have a clue.


1,122 posted on 04/21/2007 11:18:45 PM PDT by Peach
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To: garv
Old Poppy seems quite fond of Bill Clinton, what should I take that to mean?

Poppy wants to live?
1,123 posted on 04/21/2007 11:18:52 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Texasforever

I think it’s been established that you’re not a real Texan; must be a Kennebunkport transplant.


1,124 posted on 04/21/2007 11:18:55 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Peach
“You’ve said that one can’t be fiscally conservative and socially liberal without being a full blown liberal which I don’t agree with”

Peach, you don’t know JACK about fiscal conservatism...

New York leads the nation in taxes and fees. Each of them pays an average of $6300 annually in taxes and fees to live, work and have fun in the Empire State.

1,125 posted on 04/21/2007 11:19:03 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Jim Robinson

All they need to do is read my tagline.


1,126 posted on 04/21/2007 11:19:11 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Marie
"I'd rather be raped than murdered."

I wouldn't choose either one.

1,127 posted on 04/21/2007 11:20:05 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: SeaBiscuit

Chris Matthews said he would consider voting for him and I knew the fix was in. I am so Rino-ed out. Reading books on the founding fathers and then being asked to support someone who supports turkey basting parenting is..is well just to much for any sane person to take.


1,128 posted on 04/21/2007 11:20:33 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: streetpreacher
"for the first time in modern politics, the GOP runs the risk of allowing a true third party threat to take shape in 2008."

I hear that from someone on this board EVERY election cycle. I think Perot doused the "third party" idea for a long, long while.

The third party gang gave us bill clinton, and this country has been on a downhill slide straight to hell since then...and now HIS WIFE IS RUNNING? Certainly Americans won't be stupid enough to allow her to be elected President. If so, let's put our heads between our legs and kiss our collective asses "goodbye".

If she gets in, somebody hasn't been paying attention. I know, the "sheep" among us will go along with the hollywood left, and do what's "in" at the time.

I personally can do without Rudy as President. Sure, he had high visibility on 9/11, but did he actually do anything any other mayor of a city that large (and visible) would not have done? What was he going to do, sit home and whittle whimseys?

If Sean Hannity has anything to do with it Rudy will be elected - and I have always liked Sean, listen to him everyday - but he is ultra-HIGH on Rudy...talks about him incessantly.

It's going to be uphill, whomever runs. The last 3 elections were pretty close, and now with the whack job the libs and the press have put on Bush, it's going to be even closer.

Go Fred...
1,129 posted on 04/21/2007 11:20:48 PM PDT by FrankR (Fred Thompson...America's best great hope.....)
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To: Peach

I’ll ask again — what has Rudy done for National Security? What are his qualifications? What is his foreign policy experience? What are his military qualifications? What has Giuliani done to institute better national security? What did he do in new york to stop the terrorist threat? What legislation has he pushed since then?

He’s your candidate, what are his qualifications on national security?


1,130 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:04 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Marie

“I’d rather be raped than murdered.”

I would rather be armed and avoid either one.


1,131 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:10 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I suspect that it’s naive to think that the puppet masters will allow a true conservative to end up a serious contender.

But I pray I’m wrong and will try and do what I can to make it otherwise.

thanks for your kind comments.


1,132 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: M. Thatcher
Their judgment is excellent. I trust it. Do you?

Speaking to your question for myself, I have never knowingly voted for a pro-abortion, gungrabbing liberal and I'm not about to start now.

If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion gungrabbing liberal like Rudy, they forfeit my vote, and the results are their fault, not mine.

1,133 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:29 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Coyoteman

‘Cause people like Coyoteman don’t believe in God and want to force their worldview on the rest of us...


1,134 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:34 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Just sayin
If they learned their lesson they would not be trying to so hard to alienate the conservative base.....

As if they have to try

The so called "conservative base" is in PERPETUAL alienated mode; something offends one of them each and every day and off they go, moralizing and pontificating.

You see, there are alot like me, who didn’t sit at home but didn’t vote for the those we were told we should “because they can win’. Some of us actually do vote FOR our values rather than bandwagon style.

And your stupid A$$ put the Democrats in control of the House and Senate.

And here you are BRAGGING about it.

Fool.

1,135 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:37 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL. Oh my. Well, keep saying I’m a liar. It seems to make you feel better. But it doesn’t make it so and you thus far haven’t been able to show that I’ve misrepresented your positions.

And as I’ve said, I’m delighted that so far, Rudy’s frontrunner status tells me that most conservatives and Republicans don’t agree with your opinion of him.

It’s so interesting that when Republicans spend a lot of money in Congress, they’re condemned for it, but they’re rarely called liberal. But oh, if someone puts national security ahead of abortion, why they’re just treasonous liberals.


1,136 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:38 PM PDT by Peach
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To: trussell
... Banning Fierce Allegiance was wrong!

Made my night thanks. He was a disruptive POS!

1,137 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:56 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: trussell
... Banning Fierce Allegiance was wrong!

Made my night thanks. He was a disruptive POS!

1,138 posted on 04/21/2007 11:22:35 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: babygene

Uh, hon, you do know that Rudy isn’t Mayor anymore don’t you? And that when he took over they had higher taxes than France and he cut taxes 23 times and turned a deficit around into a surplus.

Even Newt has called it one of the greatest urban achievements of the 21st century.


1,139 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:02 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Petronski

Wrong. The results mean you got outvoted.


1,140 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:07 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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