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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Iwo Jima

And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Zot’s day.
***Now I really feel bad about missing the 10k mark. Methinks I’ll go & protest too much about something.


10,541 posted on 04/25/2007 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: del4hope

http://www.heptune.com/preslist.html#Pre-Presidential

Mayor
Andrew Johnson - Greenville, Tennessee
Grover Cleveland - Buffalo, New York
Calvin Coolidge - Northampton, Massachusetts

Congressman, U.S. House of Representatives
James Madison - Virginia
Andrew Jackson - Tennessee
William Henry Harrison - Northwest Territory, Ohio
John Tyler - Virginia
James Polk - Tennessee
Millard Fillmore - New York
Franklin Pierce - New Hampshire
James Buchanan - Pennsylvania
Abraham Lincoln - Illinois
Andrew Johnson - Tennessee
Rutherford Hayes - Ohio
James Garfield - Ohio
William McKinley - Ohio
John F. Kennedy - Massachusetts
Lyndon Johnson - Texas
Richard Nixon - California
Gerald Ford - Michigan
George Bush - Texas
(Note: This site doesn’t say which ones were sitting members of Congeress, but I’m thinking you’ve got to back to at least McKinley before you find a sitting member winning the Whitehouse)


10,542 posted on 04/25/2007 8:40:07 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: jedward

Did you ever get your yes or no answer?


10,543 posted on 04/25/2007 8:40:15 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: calcowgirl; AnnaZ

No one was banned or suspended for supporting Rudy.


10,544 posted on 04/25/2007 8:41:14 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: La Enchiladita

10,545 posted on 04/25/2007 8:41:39 PM PDT by right-wingin_It (;))
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To: All

Ok folks. Time for me to hit the hay.

Have a good night and be safe.

:0)


10,546 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:04 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: CindyDawg

“”If 911 had happened...say in Houston and Mayor White(?) had won local hearts, would that qualify him for president?””


I don’t know??? that Nagin guy is looking pretty good.


10,547 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or What would at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: del4hope; sonic109

Nope, but I’m looking for it. Sonic, would you please reply to my post?

“I’m really concerned with right now.He can win and thats important..”

Is it more important than the protection of the life of unborn babies? Only a yes, or no please.


10,548 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:07 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

Oh, All Mighty Political Genius who could argue with such statements?


10,549 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: markomalley

Yes, not to be confused with St. Zoticus, who was a real saint and martyr.


10,550 posted on 04/25/2007 8:42:33 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Valin

Thank you. The three mayors....did they hold any other offices other than mayor before becoming president. I know Johnson was a VP, and I think, but not sure, Cleveland was too.

Greenville, TN, that is an impressive one.


10,551 posted on 04/25/2007 8:43:02 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: calcowgirl

You’re right I didn’t. I was just commenting on some Freepers I know and who have done a pretty good job here.


10,552 posted on 04/25/2007 8:43:14 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Good night h.


10,553 posted on 04/25/2007 8:43:34 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: ansel12

Now that’s low. Rudy has done NYC good.


10,554 posted on 04/25/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Finger Monkey
This site is dying an ugly death, and it makes me very sad.

No it isn't. It's undergoing a healthy pruning. Pruning can be overdone, but that hasn't happened at FR yet. It only feels like death to the branches and twigs that are pruned. And there is life after pruning. The recently pruned have all gone to join different Internet groups where they are among folks just like themselves.

One website is a mass Rudy rally all day every day. Some other former FReepers, who have an exalted opinion of their own feeble, haphazard intelligence and who share a devout quasi-religious commitment to materialist fundamentalism, are clustered over over at another website where they can stroke each other into a state of blithering delirium.

Both of those sites comprise far narrower communities in an ideological sense than the FR community. They complain that FR has become rigid, intolerant, and ultra-orthodox but they completely overlook the smothering sameness and homogeneity of their own tiny groups.

The truth is, you can still find a wider range of opinions at FR than at any other comparable political website--especially alternate websites set up by disgruntled former FReepers. Jim Robinson has taken prudent measures to reorient FR to its original bearings that has required a handful of bannings.

That's healthy. Very healthy.

10,555 posted on 04/25/2007 8:44:25 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Right Wing Puppy
Can you look in your crystal ball, and tell me the lotto numbers for this weekend, please?

:O)

P

Run, FRED, run, and bring J.C. Watts with ya!

10,556 posted on 04/25/2007 8:44:30 PM PDT by papasmurf (FRed is like genuine leather. Rudy is genuine imitation naugahyde.)
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To: rbmillerjr

I realize you consider yourself to be the definition of all that is FReeperish and Conservative. Next you will declare yourself to be the State. Such grandiose thoughts are of little concern to me.


10,557 posted on 04/25/2007 8:44:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: del4hope

I don’t know.
and that’s something you don’t read everyday here! :-)


10,558 posted on 04/25/2007 8:44:39 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: staytrue
"The anti rudy gaggle of posters regularly trash rudy, mccain, romney, tommy thompson, brownback and huckabee."

I've argued against supporting Rudy my friend, but I do support Romney.

10,559 posted on 04/25/2007 8:45:11 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Still ducking your own charges against FR. lol


10,560 posted on 04/25/2007 8:46:00 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell'm I'm comin - and I'm bringin Hell with me")
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