Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[Jim Noble]

he’s the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress

I love what you two have done for this country, and most of the time we're on the same page.

But I don't agree with that opinion, and it's not getting any more traction with me through repetition.

I was brought up in NYC and I lived there during the worst of times.

It is inconceivable that if, by magic, HRC had succeeded David Dinkins in 1993 the incredible transformation of my city that took place from 1993-2001 would have occurred.

In fact, I'm quite sure that the rate of deterioration would have accelerated.

I am persuadeable that Rudy cannot be elected because his nomination would split the party, but the snapping and snarling we're seeing here haven't convinced me of that - yet.

And, without naming any names, the track record of Republican elected officials on abortion - not what they say, but what they do - has been fair to poor. That's because, IMO, they have to get elected, and the electorate's position on abortion is, "against it, but...".

I don't believe a candidate who is against it, and has an action plan that goes beyond getting Roe reversed can be even nominated, much less elected, without a moral change in the country first.

And, on top of that, someone who can be painted as running for President to initiate or to force that moral change can't be nominated or elected, either.

Moral change is something to pray for. Running the apparatus of government is something to vote for.

And, just in case this is post 10 000, here's a flag.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Kinda big,,,still learnin’,,,there is cost that must be paid to be free...

[Tennessee Nana]

LOL

While we are still competitive we are still alive and kicking...

Its the lethargic Republicans that concern me...

:)

[Iwo Jima]

Well, my personal page flew a flag, that should count.

It was Texas flag!

[johniegrad]

Your flag has 15 stars. The symbolism can be drawn by others.

[EternalVigilance]

8:04:00 PM CDT

You and I posted at the exact same second. Look at my 9999 and your 10,000. No fair! I wuz robbed! ROFL...

[Czar]

"I'd pay more to see fierce allegience back."

I'm not familiar with Fierce Allegiance, nor with what got him/her banned or suspended.

[rbmillerjr]

“I’m really quite speechless. I just want to thank you each for your class and dignity.”

(meaning of course we should stop the battle and concede to the frontrunning liberal...and tht w are radical and without dignity...so I want to thank the vast majority of you that realize that some thing are worth fighting for.

[processing please hold]

10,001 ain’t nothing to sneeze at. What was I...the lowly 20’s something?

[Brad’s Gramma]

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much, beltfed308!!

Woo hoo!!

We have incoming!!

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Thank you all very much!!

[Tennessee Nana]

Iwo Jima made it to 10.00 first and everyone is patriotic and friendly...

ROFL

[EternalVigilance]

Absolutely.

[HairOfTheDog]

I’m not even a member there, let alone a moderator. I didn’t even know it existed till this thread. I think you should look into this. That moderator hairofthedog that is a moderator on WA has a hubbie named ecurbh too, just like you. Has someone possibly stole your identity? Or would you be lying? Don't you realise it is easy to find out the truth?:) You have a right to be on any site you want, why lie?

OK - let's be clear... You said "WA". That's MadIvan's forum. I just went there for the first time today. I am not a member there, nor a moderator.

My husband does have a Rudy forum (here), and he did make me a moderator there (I think moderator privileges come with marriage), but it's not very active, I haven't posted there since March. To tell the truth, I split my time between posting here and at a horse forum. You're free to check out my posting history on either forum, my intent has never been to undermine FR. I wrote the 'policy' over there about badmouthing FR because the last thing we wanted was to be associated with, or attract, antifreepers. The jerks at the former CP don't like me, and I don't like them. They posted and laughed at my wedding pictures. I hate 'em. I really do. My husband merely wanted to make a forum to talk about a possible Rudy candidacy when it became unwelcome here. Of late... neither of us have been that interested in politics... The weather's been too nice and we've been trail riding. Lying, no. I'm not interested in lying to you.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.

Samuel Adams

[presently no screen name]

Where were you a couple thousand posts ago? Much needed humor. Ping me when you do an encore.

[Tennessee Nana]

I got 5.000

:)

[Iwo Jima]

Well, you’re too late.

[Tennessee Nana]

:)

[Jim Robinson]

There is no difference between Hillary and Giuliani on abortion, partial birth abortion, the gay agenda, gun control, illegal aliens, etc. And she wears pants.

[rbookward]

— BTW, my post to you was a joke...hope you didn’t take it as any but. :-)

Thanks! It was good material!