Posted on 01/09/2007 5:46:20 AM PST by PetroniDE
Time to make everyone in SEC country mad at me.
Boise St. 2007 Football Bowl Subdivision National Champions.
Here is some logic for you.
Florida lost to Auburn
Auburn lost to Arkansas
Arkansas lost to USC
USC lost to Oregon State
Oregon State lost to Boise State
Who did Boise State lose to this season? NOBODY !!
Save the argument about strength of schedule and "didn't play nobody". How many SEC teams play non-conference road games? Think any SEC teams would play Boise State (or any other non-BCS team) home and home?
But seriously, I doubt we'd have to worry about that. But at least it gives every team in Division I-A a shot, without having to rely on polls, even a team in the Sun Belt conference.
Based on the performance of the Big East in bowl games, I would say that conference questions the strength of schedule computations.
If you want an English premier league setup, fine, but ultimately sports are played on the field, not voted upon.
BTW, how strong was Notre Dame's schedule? I don't know, I am curious.
My family visited BSU last summer. The team was coming off the bus from training somewhere. I approached the Coach Petersen and asked him if there were a way to let the kids see the "Smurf Turf" in the stadium. He took us thru the football office and told the kids to make themselves at home on the field. They ran around for about ten minutes and had a blast. Every coach and trainer we saw stopped and said hi to the kids like they were players.
We'll be BSU fans as long as Coach Petersen is there. Totally nice guy.
You know the problem with the At Large placeholder: it's a backdoor for Notre Dame, and everyone knows it. Notre Dame could go 6-5 every year and they'd still get "At Large Number 2" because of all their alums.
Personally, I like the notion of playoffs beginning after the Regular Season ends with the Big Four Bowls being the Semi-finals, similar to the AFC and NFC championship systems. It could be structured similar to what you're doing, but the Mid Majors would have to sing for their supper by playing out elimination, say, WAC would go up against Big East or ACC, while Mid America would have to go up against Big 12. In most cases, this would be a feast, a tune up game for the Major Conference team, but in the case of good teams like Boise State, you'd see some conferences like WAC become major conferences in their own right.
So called "mid majors" would eventually become major football schools. They would have to, especially state schools like BSU (this will happen to the Broncos-they'll end up like Miami in the 1980's) to survive in the upcoming playoff system.
Rose and Orange, Fiesta and Sugar, Cotton and Peach, plus two others as the major Playoff Bowls. You could actually rotate one bowl as the Championship Game, or have a neutral site game like the NFL does. NCAA needs to sit down with NFL to ask them how they do it.
Basically, you want to get as close as possible to the NFL system w/o favoring Notre Dame.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
"Oh, and another thing. It's time for all of those 'the SEC plays creampuffs for out-of-conference opponents' jerks to shut the hell up. Look who they have to play INSIDE THE CONFERENCE."
BUMP.
That Boise team lost too many seniors from their undefeated 2004 team. With the high turnover from year to year, you can't use previous seasons to gauge.
Here is a more detailed look at how Boise would fair as an SEC member (on average).
Vanderbilt/Ole Miss/Miss. St/Kentucky: should beat.
So. Car/Alabama/Arkansas: should beat (now); could beat (future).
Tenn: could beat.
LSU/UF/Aub/UGA: occassional beat (under right circumstances).
Remember, half of these games are at home. A combination of senior-dominated team, catch one of the top 4 at home, and/or catch a top 4 team slow in reloading and it is not impossible.
On average Boise is 5-3/4-4 in SEC. But "once a decade or so" look out.
You could also award Boise State one of the at-large spots in January so that if a team from one of those conferences was in the Top 8, they would automatically qualify for January. So the 'play-in' literally would involve teams that really have no shot.
Sore loser.
Get used to the fact that your conference sucks. Big time.
-- Same thing will happen to Fl , maybe even next year, they are losing leek --
Obviously, you didn't watch TEBOW last night.
Congrats to the Gators. They did the SEC proud last night. Beat OSU like a red-headed step-child.....and gave them a 7 point head start to boot. You're coach is top notch.
UF would paste their butts. BS is a decent team that played beyond themselves for one night. It was refreshing and inspiring, and I was pulling for them. The rest of their schedule was a bunch of patsies, so they had lots left for their last game. They would have trouble with Vanderbilt. South Carolina and Steve Spurrier would mash 'em. The cream of the SEC would take them apart.
Until the NCAA implements a Div 1 play-off system we will forever have these debates. Unfortunately the money is more important to the big conferences and universities.
See post #38 for my playoff idea. Tell me what you think.
I'm so fed up with SEC blowhards like yourself who are always throwing out completely exaggerated bullsh!t about how your conference is miles above the rest and how the San Diego Chargers would have a losing record in the SEC. You've been whining how your undefeated Auburn a few years ago got screwed, but that year there were 2 other undefeated teams who had played tougher schedules, one being the USC that had whipped your ass home and away the previous 2 years, and you had a coward's nonconference schedule. A few SEC teams have finally started upgrading to decent nonconference schedules (Tennessee being the rare SEC exception that has pretty much always had a decent nonconf schedule), though not every year and usually not home and away, and most of you guys play 7 home games out of 11 or 12. Kinda like a decade ago where other than Miami the Florida schools rarely played outside their region, would pump each other up in the polls, and then get exposed in the bowl if they actually faced someone from outside their incestuous region (rather than hiding on the home field of the Orange or Sugar Bowl.)
This was the best year for the SEC in a long time, but it still wasn't overwhelming, and best not to look too close at the bowl performances. SEC #2 Arkansas looked sorry against a overrated Big 10 (sic) #3 Wisconsin, who had played nobody (also pumped by the incestious "Our conference is so tough" crap, "Our only loss was to mighty Michigan" which was later exposed.) Tennessee fell to a mediocre Penn St that didn't have a QB, and both losses were in SEC land. Alabama ends up with a losing record after losing to a 6-6 team. S. Carolina squeaks out a shootout win against a 3 loss Conference Whatever Houston, Kentucky wins by a TD over a mediocre 3-loss Clemson, Auburn survives a 4-loss Nebraska only because of a boneheaded decision to fake punt deep in NE territory. LSU blew out Notre Dame, but the Irish are always the most overrated team in the country and had zero business being in a BCS bowl, congrats to the Tigers for proving they are as good as Michigan (27-point win for LSU in a home game vs. a 26-point win for Mich. at Notre Dame.)
Georgia did look impressive against a 2-loss VT (but there is another team that is perenially overrated with a almost always a questionable non-conf schedule), as did Florida. The point isn't to bash the SEC, which did have a good year all things considered, nor Florida which had a great year (obviously), but to put things in perspective. Ohio St and USC fans can be obnoxious, but the SEC probably tops the Pac10 in BS blowhards. All this talk about how Boise St or Ohio St or USC or whoever would finish last in the SEC is ridiculous. Ever consider trying to win with class, or does your insecurity get in the way?
Tebow has got big shoes to fill. Leak was awesome last night. That first touchdown pass to Baker was an incredible throw under pressure and he lofted it just over the OSU linebacker into Baker's hands.
What happened to Troy Smith last night? THAT was painful.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.