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BOISE STATE -- 2007 FOOTBALL BOWL SUBDIVISION NATIONAL CHAMPIONS !!
9 January 2007 | self

Posted on 01/09/2007 5:46:20 AM PST by PetroniDE

Time to make everyone in SEC country mad at me.

Boise St. 2007 Football Bowl Subdivision National Champions.

Here is some logic for you.

Florida lost to Auburn
Auburn lost to Arkansas
Arkansas lost to USC
USC lost to Oregon State
Oregon State lost to Boise State

Who did Boise State lose to this season? NOBODY !!

Save the argument about strength of schedule and "didn't play nobody". How many SEC teams play non-conference road games? Think any SEC teams would play Boise State (or any other non-BCS team) home and home?


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To: aft_lizard

Historically, you're partly right.

Currently, there is no doubt where the SEC stands w.r.t. other conferences. BTW, USC is always a great team and they are the only folks that I would rank on being par with top-ranked SEC team.

The Big 10 is the pampered brat of the sports media and I don't think OSU or Mich. would beat SEC teams like South Carolina or UK consistently.

Given the current state of affairs, the rest of the conferences can fight for the #2 spot. Personally, I think the ACC is better than the Big 12 or the Pac 10 (minus USC).

It'll be interesting to see what happens next year. I don't think the media and the nabobs that run the BCS are too happy about an SEC team winning the NCship/being unbeaten 3 out of the last 4 years. If SEC dominance continues, what's going to happen to favored horses like Notre Dame (barf), OSU, OU, Mich., etc.?


161 posted on 01/09/2007 7:36:07 AM PST by indcons (Congrats to the Gators on bringing the NC home to the SEC, where it rightfully belongs.)
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To: Arkinsaw

Wisconsin and the rest of the Big 10 are sorta like the NFC East: the deteriorating weather in December dictates that you have to be able to run the ball to have success in the conference. This puts a premium on a hulking O-line & a rugged running game. You have to ask yourself if a Big 10 regular season really prepares its teams for Bowl success.

SEC & Pac-10 teams can essentially play the same offense that they start the season with & continue to hone it to perfection. By the time the Bowls arrive they are usually clicking on all cylinders.

Finally, the Big 10 athletic directors are so insular that they don't seem to think anything outside the conference exists. I haven't seen them do anything to correct the situation. One easy thing would be to schedule more non-conference games later in the season (as a reality check) instead frontloading the schedule with non-conference opponents.


162 posted on 01/09/2007 7:36:22 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: PetroniDE

Boise State is the national champion, in my book. I'll never forget their win over Oklahoma. But I bet if you ask me in five years who the powers-that-be gave the ring to, I won't remember, or care.


163 posted on 01/09/2007 7:37:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Even Steve Spurrier couldn't beat FSU in Tallahassee.

But Ron Zook could, go figure.

164 posted on 01/09/2007 7:37:26 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: section9

ROFLMBO, nice study hall... perhaps I would of done better in college with one of those too!!!!


165 posted on 01/09/2007 7:39:14 AM PST by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: section9
I still disagree . I do not know Boise State from a hill of beans till this year, but the fact is according to Bcs rules unbeaten means unbeaten and it was not the Gators.Oh don't worry about the Hurricanes they have bull eyes on their walls for Fl already. You know this game , games over they start working on next year.
166 posted on 01/09/2007 7:39:50 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: indcons

As it turns out, unless you are Big10 or Pac10, the best conference in the bowls generally turns out the National Champion als0, save this year with the Big East the SEC was the best BCS conference.


167 posted on 01/09/2007 7:40:33 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Steve_Seattle
And I'm enough of an old fud that I think it's ludicrous for a conference with 11 teams to call itself the Big Ten.

But at least they include the "11" in their logo.

168 posted on 01/09/2007 7:41:04 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

A major problems with that system.

You have the smaller conference teams playing up to three post-season games just to get to the round of eight. Then three more if one of them advanced to the finals. That is 18-19 games total.

One "play-in" game might be feasible. Three rounds of "play-in" is not.

Difficult enough trying to squeeze 16-17 into any schedule. Your system would never work.


169 posted on 01/09/2007 7:41:51 AM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: PetroniDE
Without football/men's college basketball, colleges and universities would be in even worse shape financially than they are now.

Exactly. Case in Point - Alabama. The made $27 Million PROFIT this year. To pay off Mike Shula's Buyout ($4 MIl) they passed the hat among boosters -- the result -- $16 MILLION was donated. so they just made an Additional $12 Million for the school on top of the $27 Million made this season.

That is $39 Million that is going straight back into the entire University, not just the Football program.

For 2007, Alabama football IS ALREADY IN THE BLACK, 8 months before the season even starts, because of Season Ticket sales and endowments. IOW, every single penny made from Concession Sales, merchandise sales, Individual Game ticket sales, parking etc etc etc is CLEAR PROFIT.

170 posted on 01/09/2007 7:42:14 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Dude, it does not matter what BSU did in 2005, now does it? Really?


171 posted on 01/09/2007 7:42:59 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: PetroniDE
When has Boise State played an SEC team? What was the outcome?

Oh yeah, Sept. 3, 2005. Georgia beat Boise 48-13. Georgia could have hung 70 on them if they played their starters after the first half.

No way Boise could survive an SEC conference schedule.

172 posted on 01/09/2007 7:43:43 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: aft_lizard
"What good is it to say you are co-champions, like the Pac-10 had this year."

It means that the Pac-10 still has enough sense to say that there's nothing wrong with having co-champions if that's how it works out. All of this endless wrangling about who's number one just places way too much emphasis on the whole thing. Of course, even the Pac-10 now has a post-season basketball tournament. And that just gives a team that finished 5th or 6th during the regular season a chance to get lucky and win a championship they don't deserve. And like the unfrozen caveman lawyer on SNL, my mind can't handle these concepts. If some team goes 14-0 during the regular season, and loses the championship game on a last second shot to an 8-6 team, I don't think that's justice.
173 posted on 01/09/2007 7:44:25 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: PetroniDE

Football polls are like political polls. The polling orgainzation can get whatever results it wants. To have second-tier teams like Michigan and Ohio State at or near the top all season proves it.

Oh, and another thing. It's time for all of those "the SEC plays creampuffs for out-of-conference opponents" jerks to shut the hell up. Look who they have to play INSIDE THE CONFERENCE.


174 posted on 01/09/2007 7:44:44 AM PST by Crawdad (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Tallguy
One easy thing would be to schedule more non-conference games later in the season (as a reality check) instead frontloading the schedule with non-conference opponents.

Exactly. Georgia (Ga Tech), Florida (FSU), and South Carolina (Clemson) all end every season against Non-Conference, and Usually top 25 ranked, opponents.

175 posted on 01/09/2007 7:45:13 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Logophile

Why? It's fun. It provides a way of keeping alumni in touch with the University and introduces children to the University. It gives hundreds of students from each school (by the time you look at the entire support structure) a chance to travel all over the country and interact with people who have similar interests but who are from different cultures within our country. It gives college kids a chance to learn to work in large team environments in very public, high pressure environments. It teaches college kids how to act in a poised manner no matter the circumstances, but it's their job to try to keep the fans into what's going on. You may personally feel physically exhausted or may be disgusted with what's going on in the game, but you have to at least act upbeat because that's your job.

NFL or NBA or not, all of this is great prep for the professional world. I'm saying this from firsthand experience in a support organization...being a lower middle class kid, being part of the Razorback organization gave me experiences opportunities I would have never had otherwise that prepared me for the real world and I got to feel like I was earning my keep by playing my role to be there. And no, the high school version of what I did wasn't REMOTELY the same.


176 posted on 01/09/2007 7:45:42 AM PST by ark_girl
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To: Steve_Seattle

I agree with you that there should be no more than 6-8 bowl games. If BSU wants to play with the big boys, let them join a more competitive league.


177 posted on 01/09/2007 7:46:21 AM PST by indcons (Congrats to the Gators on bringing the NC home to the SEC, where it rightfully belongs.)
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To: section9
Read somewhere that the PAC 10 is considering adding a couple of teams and becoming the PAC 12. Would have 6 north teams, 6 south, and then a one game playoff to decide the champ.

Boise would be one of the teams added and the other would be either Hawaii, Fresno, or San Jose.

Quite an accomplishment for Boise if that happens considering they have only been in Div 1A for a little over 10 years.

178 posted on 01/09/2007 7:47:43 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Steve_Seattle
All of this endless wrangling about who's number one just places way too much emphasis on the whole thing.

I agree -- why lets just take it one step furthur and not even keep score in the games. That way no one ever has to have the Stigma of being the loser.

179 posted on 01/09/2007 7:47:58 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: betsyross1776
He doesn't have to moan and groan to be declared champions. It is a done deal. The current system is flawed but it is the one currently in place and the Gators won it. Boise State did everything asked of them and had a great season, but they did not play the same caliber opponents as did Florida so did not get to play for the title in the current system. I would have enjoyed seeing Boise State play in a tournament and prove themselves but do not think they would have matched up with the players at Florida.

As to Urban, you may not like him but the truth is most at UF don't either. They are happy he won but fully expect him to move on quickly as he has already shown the proclivity to do. He has no ties to UF and is not "family". Spurrier's mistake was trying his shtick in the NFL. Having been a winner as a player and coach at UF he could have stuck around at UF as long as Bobby Bowden has at FSU and been well paid to coach until senile.

180 posted on 01/09/2007 7:48:07 AM PST by Armando Guerra (GO GATORS!!!)
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