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Fossil Remains Show The Merging Of Neandertals, Modern Humans
Washington University ^ | 10-12-2006 | Neil Schoenherr

Posted on 10/12/2006 11:22:03 AM PDT by blam

Fossil remains show the merging of Neandertals, modern humans

By Neil Schoenherr

The early modern human remains from the Pestera Muierii (Cave of the Old Woman), Romania, which were discovered in 1952, have been poorly dated and largely ignored. But recently, a team of researchers from the Anthropological and Archaeological Institutes in Bucharest, Romania, and from WUSTL has been able to directly date the fossils to 30,000 years ago. The fossils prove that a strict population replacement of the Neandertals did not happen.

"What these fossils show is that these earliest modern humans had a mosaic of distinctly modern human characteristics and other characteristics which align them with Neandertals, suggesting some combination of modern humans dispersing into Europe and interacting with and absorbing the Neandertal population," said Erik Trinkaus, Ph.D., the Mary Tileston Hemenway Professor of physical anthropology in Arts & Sciences.

"These fossils have the potential to shed light on several issues regarding early modern Europeans."

The team's research will appear online in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The human remains from the Pestera Muierii present a basically modern human-derived pattern, which is evident in discrete traits and metric aspects throughout the sample. It therefore joins the sample of human remains from the sites of Pestera cu Oase and Pestera Cioclovina in southeastern Europe, Mlade in Central Europe, and Brassempouy, La Quina Aval and Les Rois in western Europe in filling out the anatomy of the earliest of modern humans in Europe.

Yet, as with many of these other Early Upper Paleolithic modern Europeans, the Muierii fossils exhibit a number of archaic and/or Neandertal features.

These data reinforce the mosaic nature of these early modern Europeans and the complex dynamics of human reproductive patterns when modern humans moved westward across Europe.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthropology; cave; caves; darwinistblowhards; godsgravesglyphs; humans; neandertals; romania; science; spelunkers; spelunking
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To: Ol' Sparky
Sure, they do...Just like all the other alleged missing links did before they were proven to be frauds or debunked. Happens every time because the fossil record refutes evolution, showing species appear suddenly and fully-formed, matching the Creationist model:

Nice try. Which creationist website did this come from?

21 posted on 10/12/2006 11:38:48 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: blam
Merged beings: Half human & Half democrat. 100% scary!


22 posted on 10/12/2006 11:39:21 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: blam

When Democrats Marry Republicans: The Merging Of Neandertals, Modern Humans


23 posted on 10/12/2006 11:39:39 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Red Badger

LOL.


24 posted on 10/12/2006 11:41:37 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: blam
Weren't they just saying that the evidence was showing that Neanderthals didn't mix with Cro-Magnons? Sheesh.
25 posted on 10/12/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: All

Now tell me a fossilized Nikolai Valuev wouldn't be dug up and referred to as a giant human-neanderthal hybrid. These two skulls certainly do not look anything alike. If skulls are radically different in shape and size now among humans, they probably were in the past also.
26 posted on 10/12/2006 11:46:55 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: theFIRMbss
Neanderthal women were large ~ huge even, and had a reproductive schedule sufficient to ensure human survival in a harsh environment.

That probably meant the birth of twins every 3 to 5 years.

Twins at that frequency means they had to have four breasts.

I doubt that lady has 4, 2 maybe, but we can only believe that if you can find a picture for us.

27 posted on 10/12/2006 11:47:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam


28 posted on 10/12/2006 11:49:35 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Katherine Harris for U.S. Senate)
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To: blam
The original Laguna Beach cast:
29 posted on 10/12/2006 11:51:14 AM PDT by CaptainCanada (Assalamu Alaykum - may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits...)
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To: RockinRight

"When Democrats Marry Republicans: The Merging Of Neandertals, Modern Humans..."
But this begs the question- what good Republican would want to marry outside his own species?


30 posted on 10/12/2006 11:53:28 AM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: Ol' Sparky

Evilutionists will not look at Neanderthal DNA because it proves the Humans were in no way related to Neanderthals.


31 posted on 10/12/2006 11:54:47 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: 95 Bravo

Mary Matlin.


32 posted on 10/12/2006 11:54:58 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: blam

So it appears my ancestors did date Neanderthals, in spite of what the families thought.

Father: "Where do you think you are going, Bam?"

Bam "I'm going to the river to meet Boom Boom."

Father: "I thought I told you we don't mix with those animals."

Bam: "Dad, I'm going. I love her, regardless of what the family says."


33 posted on 10/12/2006 11:57:15 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: blam
How extensive are the remains in question?

There is a limitation on what can be derived from cranial and facial morphology, but as the period in question is recent, I would imagine that they are fairly complete.

If I cannot study the case myself, I would prefer to wait for a full publication of the analysis in a scientific journal before drawing my conclusions.

34 posted on 10/12/2006 11:58:48 AM PDT by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: FourtySeven; blam; Jim Robinson

That's too bad. Wonder why?

Most of the fun on FR are the keywords.


35 posted on 10/12/2006 12:00:09 PM PDT by LucyT (... islam, the religion of peace; they will kill you to prove it.)
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To: mountainlyons

experts are looking a neanderthal DNA, and the jury is out - my prediction is that we have met the neanderthals, and they are us.


36 posted on 10/12/2006 12:03:27 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: blam

Maybe it is just the number of characters...


37 posted on 10/12/2006 12:05:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: 95 Bravo

Why do you assume Neanderthalus is Liberal? Makes much more sense, that we neanderthals are conservative.


38 posted on 10/12/2006 12:06:20 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton
"...my prediction is that we have met the neanderthals, and they are us."

My thoughts also.

39 posted on 10/12/2006 12:06:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Just don't tell my redheaded kid. LOL.


40 posted on 10/12/2006 12:09:10 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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