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Ethics of War - Judaism
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Posted on 07/31/2006 10:17:59 AM PDT by mjp

Judaism does not regard violence and war to promote justice as always wrong. It accepts that certain kinds of war will be ethically justified, and that it is sometimes morally acceptable to kill people.

Before declaring war or starting a battle there must be a genuine attempt to make peace and avoid the conflict.

Jewish law only permits combatants to be deliberately killed in war. Innocent civilians must be given every opportunity to leave the field of combat before a battle starts.

Old Testament In much of the Old Testament God gives his clear approval to war. He is identified as a warrior, and is shown as leading the Jews in conflict, bringing them victory, protecting them from enemy forces.

But at the same time the Old Testament is filled with Jewish longing for peace.

"They shall beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" Isaiah 2.

Peace Peace is seen as something that comes from God and that will only be fully realised when there is justice and harmony not just between peoples, but within individual communities.

Some of the present day arguments put forwards in the context of terrorism take up this idea that there can be no real peace without justice for all.The importance of peace to the Jewish people is emphasised by "Shalom", the conventional greeting between Jews from the earliest times, which means "peace".

Self-defence The Talmud states that a person (a Jew or a non-Jew) is permitted to kill "a pursuer" to save his own life. This ruling applies to both individuals and groups of people (including states).

The Rabbis The ancient rabbis thought that there were three types of war that a Jewish state should consider:

* Obligatory Wars: These are wars that God commanded Jews to fight. They include the biblical wars against the Canaanites and against the Amalekites.

* Defensive Wars: (These are also obligatory.) If the Jewish people are attacked, they are obliged to defend themselves.

This doctrine covers pre-emptive strikes (which is when a country attacks an enemy who is about to attack it).

o Some writers think that a war of self-defence doesn't count as a war, but is merely the normal action that can be taken under the Jewish law dealing with attackers and based on Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed." (see above)

* Optional Wars: These are wars undertaken for a good reason, and where no other form of "negotiation" remains possible.

The Rules of War The Jewish tradition is clear that before declaring war, or starting a battle, there must be an attempt to make peace - any military action without doing this is probably unlawful (Deuteronomy 20:10).

Only combatants are allowed to be killed intentionally in war. Military commanders should give non-combatants a good chance to leave the combat area before the battle starts. (This is usually impractical in modern warfare.)

However some authorities say that if a non-combatant knowingly stays in a place where a battle is about to take place, they lose their protection.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; asia; geopolitics; hezbollah; israel; judaism; justwar; lebanon; levant; middleeast; mideast; qana; swasia; war

1 posted on 07/31/2006 10:18:00 AM PDT by mjp
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To: mjp
Wish some of the Christians I know would stop with the turn the other check and stand up for Israel.
2 posted on 07/31/2006 10:32:30 AM PDT by Lucretia Borgia
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To: mjp

Shalom through superior firepower.


3 posted on 07/31/2006 10:32:37 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (To Hell With Pisslam!)
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To: mjp
Jewish law only permits combatants to be deliberately killed in war.

Is it necessary to point out that this is a highly selective reading of the Old Testament?

The laws of war outlined in the OT are even more violent than those of the Koran. The problem is that today's Muslims continue to act on the Koranic laws of war, while the Jews have "interpreted" their's out of recognition. (Which is a good thing.)

4 posted on 07/31/2006 11:00:43 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: mjp
Only combatants are allowed to be killed intentionally in war. Military commanders should give non-combatants a good chance to leave the combat area before the battle starts. (This is usually impractical in modern warfare.) The leaflets and phone calls made to warn civilians, by the Israeli gov't. They making sure they on the right side of the ultimate judge.
5 posted on 07/31/2006 11:28:59 AM PDT by StuLongIsland
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The God of the Old Testament is the God of the New Testament.


6 posted on 07/31/2006 11:35:58 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: mjp

Only a fool doesn't defend himself.


7 posted on 07/31/2006 2:16:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Surrender to Islam. Vote Democrat.)
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To: mjp; SJackson; Salem

Ping


8 posted on 07/31/2006 2:20:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mjp

The secular government of Israel does not abide by Jewish law, which is more complicated than this article suggests. And the socialist establishment in the Israeli military is even less interested in Jewish law.


9 posted on 07/31/2006 2:22:41 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: mjp
...that it is sometimes morally acceptable to kill people.

Murder is wrong. Killing is necessary.

10 posted on 07/31/2006 2:35:49 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

11 posted on 07/31/2006 2:37:22 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 35-38)
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To: mjp

Defeat is not an option.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 2:45:25 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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13 posted on 07/31/2006 3:17:52 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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Even a quick read of the Book of Ecclesiastes tells one of "a time to kill, and a time to heal".

At at this particular point in time ... well the healing will have to come later.

Prayers for peace in that troubled land.


14 posted on 07/31/2006 7:02:43 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
The God of the Old Testament is the God of the New Testament.

A completely false statement: the "god" of the Old Testament never existed, save in the false religion of those who wrote Old Testament mythology.

15 posted on 08/25/2006 8:32:30 PM PDT by Giant Conservative
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Respectfully, you are wrong. God is the same from before time until after the end. The God of the Old Testament is exactly the same as the God of the New Testament. This is clear.
16 posted on 08/25/2006 9:37:51 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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