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11,000-Year-Old Grain Shakes Up Beliefs On Beginnings Of Agriculture
Jerusalem Post ^ | 6-18-2006 | Judy Siegel-Itzkovich

Posted on 06/19/2006 1:04:07 PM PDT by blam

Jun. 18, 2006 0:24 | Updated Jun. 18, 2006 10:45

11,000-year-old grain shakes up beliefs on beginnings of agriculture

By JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH

Bar-Ilan University researchers have found a cache of 120,000 wild oat and 260,000 wild barley grains at the Gilgal archaeological site near Jericho that date back 11,000 years - providing evidence of cultivation during the Neolithic Period.

The research, performed by Drs. Ehud Weiss and Anat Hartmann of BIU's department of Land of Israel studies and Prof. Mordechai Kislev of the faculty of life sciences, appears in the June 16 edition of the prestigious journal Science.

It is the second time in two weeks that Kislev and Hartmann have had an article in Science. They recently wrote about their discovery of 10,000-year-old cultivated figs at the same Jordan Valley site.

According to the researchers, the newest find shows that the transition from nomadic food gathering and the beginning of agriculture were quite different than previously thought. Until now, the general assumption has been that agriculture was begun by a single line of human efforts in one specific area. But the BIU researchers found a much more complicated effort undertaken by different human populations in different regions, drawing a completely new picture of the origins of agriculture.

Agriculture, the BIU researchers suggest, originated through human manipulations of wild plants - sometimes involving the same species - that took place in various spatially and temporally distinct communities. Moreover, some of these occasions were found to be much earlier than previously thought possible.

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To: evets

That looks like a can of brake fluid.


41 posted on 06/19/2006 1:49:37 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: magslinger
Yeast is not required for bread baking. Think flat bread

Also, you don't need to "add" yeast - yeast floats around in the air as a naturally occuring substance. Leave some soaked grains around long enough and yeast will find it and grow on it. I would imagine that's where beer got it's start.

42 posted on 06/19/2006 1:51:09 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Red Badger
If the seeds look good, we'll get a clue what the odds are from this.

A week or two ago, I looked up from cooking when someone on TV news said there was pot growing on the front lawn of a state house or town hall . . . looked urban but Ididn't catch where. Apparently, they'd dug the lawn up to redo it and rains came before they got any further. When the sun came out, there were pot seedlings all over the place!

They're from WWII's Hemp for the cause, or whatever it was called. From 60 years ago, my brief peek looked like damn good germination rate.

43 posted on 06/19/2006 1:52:08 PM PDT by Lady Jag (You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses.)
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44 posted on 06/19/2006 1:56:42 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: dljordan
Birds and bears get drunk on berries and fruit fermenting right on the vine. Wine happens.
45 posted on 06/19/2006 2:00:17 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: Lady Jag
They're from WWII's Hemp for the cause, or whatever it was called. From 60 years ago

Don't count on it. Those unfortunate enough to get the kind with seeds love to spread them on police station/city hall lawns and in potted plants inside the station. Or so I'm told...

46 posted on 06/19/2006 2:01:46 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Red Badger
I saw a show on this subject, and raised bread was made by someone too lazy to get fresh water, but had some nice beer on hand...

Which makes sense, yeast is more likely to infect a wort than dough.

47 posted on 06/19/2006 2:01:50 PM PDT by magslinger (Watch out for Christians and their IPD's (Improvised Potluck Dinners)!)
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To: blam

Probaly, just some old acid heads letting their grain go moldy.


48 posted on 06/19/2006 2:03:53 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: Dinsdale

Johnny Pot Seed strikes again! LOL!

I'm just saying what the people who are there said.


49 posted on 06/19/2006 2:18:26 PM PDT by Lady Jag (You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses.)
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To: blam

Someone failed to sow their wild oats.


50 posted on 06/19/2006 2:19:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: frogjerk
Brigid is said to have changed her dirty bathwater into beer...

I can't decide if this explains lite beer, or the later Schlitz.

51 posted on 06/19/2006 2:24:02 PM PDT by Grut
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To: dljordan

Someone cooked the barley and then let it sit in the pot.

Liquid+starch+fermentation=Ethanol.


52 posted on 06/19/2006 2:24:47 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: frogjerk

It's the same process of making sour dough breads...

Yeast floating in the air innoculate the moist dough.


53 posted on 06/19/2006 2:26:36 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Red Badger
Viola!


54 posted on 06/19/2006 2:26:52 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: frogjerk

Good stuff. It will do for breakfast.


55 posted on 06/19/2006 2:28:35 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: wolfcreek

yuck! frosty mud?!
i'll stick with a Guinness...


56 posted on 06/19/2006 2:49:11 PM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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To: Red Badger
Maybe it was an offshoot of breadmaking.

Beer is sometimes called "liquid bread". I've heard of beer riots after brewers started using cheap sugar from the new world.

Two cans of malt syrup, one hopped and one plain, makes a tasty home brew.
57 posted on 06/19/2006 2:50:45 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: Red Badger

"nings Of Agriculture, Red Badger wrote:

How does one "discover" beer? Wine I can see. Grape juice, sits in storage till it ferments and viola, you've got wine. Beer, on the other hand, requires a scientific approach to brewing ingredients, cooking, fermenting, etc. One does not accidentally come upon beer, it must be planned and researched........."

For what we would call modern, drinkable beer true. We have the medieval scholastic monks to thank for that...most all of what we now know as beer came from their experimentation.

However, just a fermented grain drink...requires no great science. Leave some grain in a container (even a hole in rock) of water for a few days, strain out the grain, and the result is beer. Easier almost than wine. Not very potable by our standards, but in neolithic times, I'm sure lovely. Archeologically, "beer" just means a brew from fermented grains, not Bitberger Pilsener, or Chimay Red, hence to be a basic beer, doesn't mean what we know of as beer today.

Besides usually the craftsmenship of the ancient world is greater than we imagine. They may well have had a potable grain beverage (beer) that we would find delicious.

In King Midas' tomb, the remnents of the evaporated beverage s in the chalices were analyzed...finding a sophisticated brewed mix of grape must, honey, and barley all brewed together (like a combination of wine, mead and beer...but not mixed, but fermented at the same time). I've had Dogfish Head brewery's attempt at recreating it, and it is a very delicious beerwinemead...which doesn't fit any category of taste I've known. We shouldn't think the ancients as tasteless!


58 posted on 06/19/2006 2:59:02 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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59 posted on 06/19/2006 3:01:29 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: wayne_b24
I was referring to Guinness. LOL!
60 posted on 06/19/2006 3:04:42 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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