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Neanderthals And Humans: Perhaps They Never Met
Live Science ^ | 5-8-2006 | Robin Lloyd

Posted on 05/08/2006 11:29:20 AM PDT by blam

Neanderthals and Humans: Perhaps They Never Met

By Robin Lloyd
Special to LiveScience
posted: 08 May 2006

The number of years that modern humans are thought to have overlapped with Neanderthals in Europe is shrinking fast, and some scientists now say that figure could drop to zero.

Neanderthals lived in Europe and western Asia from 230,000 to 29,000 years ago, petering out soon after the arrival of modern humans from Africa.

There is much debate on exactly how Neanderthals went extinct. Theories include climate change and inferior tools compared to those made by modern humans. Anthropologists also disagree on whether modern humans and Neanderthals are the same species and interbred.

And now, some scientists dispute whether they lived side-by-side at all in Europe.

Timeline of Human Evolution

The timeline of human evolution is long and controversial, with significant gaps. Experts do not agree on many of the start and end points of various species. So this chart involves significant estimates.

Zero overlap?

The overlap figure shrank in February with new research by Paul Mellars of Cambridge University based on improved carbon-14 dating to show that modern humans started encroaching from Israel upon Neanderthal territory in the Balkans 3,000 years sooner than previously thought. This rate suggests Neanderthals succumbed sooner to big climate shifts or competition from modern humans for resources and that they might have overlapped for only 1,000 years at sites in western France.

Try zero years, says anthropologist John Hawks of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; humans; maybe; met; multiregionalism; neandertal; neanderthal; neanderthals; never; they
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1 posted on 05/08/2006 11:29:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Were Neanderthals human or not?


2 posted on 05/08/2006 11:30:24 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: blam
Not only had they met...

...(shudder).. they bred!

3 posted on 05/08/2006 11:31:00 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: blam

I'll go make popcorn.


4 posted on 05/08/2006 11:32:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: mlc9852

Yes, they all turned into Muslims.


5 posted on 05/08/2006 11:32:44 AM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: blam

Had one as my lawyer.

My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages.

6 posted on 05/08/2006 11:32:50 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: mlc9852

Sub species: Homo Sapiens Neanderthalis


7 posted on 05/08/2006 11:33:05 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: blam

There are plenty of folk-tales and legends about the old people in Europe. Some of these could be about the neanderthals, although 25,000 years would put it way back in oral tradition.


8 posted on 05/08/2006 11:33:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Mikey_1962

I was looking for a yes or no answer.


9 posted on 05/08/2006 11:33:48 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Howlin; onyx; Clemenza; Petronski; GummyIII; SevenofNine; martin_fierro; veronica; EggsAckley; ...

misc ping! :)


10 posted on 05/08/2006 11:34:56 AM PDT by EveningStar (TIMMAH!)
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To: mlc9852

Humans are Homo Sapiens Sapiens...

so... No.


11 posted on 05/08/2006 11:35:36 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


12 posted on 05/08/2006 11:36:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: sonsofliberty2000
LOL, another quote:

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! When I see my image on the security camera at the country club, I wonder, are they stealing my soul? I get so upset, I hop out of my Range Rover, and run across the fairway to the clubhouse, where I get Carlos to make me one of those martinis he's so famous for, to soothe my primitive caveman brain. But whatever world you're from, I do know one thing: in the 20 years from March 22, 1972, when he first ordered that extra nicotine be put into his product, until February 25, 1992, when he issued an interoffice memorandum stopping the addition of that nicotine, my client was legally insane."

13 posted on 05/08/2006 11:36:33 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: mlc9852

We know.


14 posted on 05/08/2006 11:37:26 AM PDT by js1138
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To: blam


Neanderthals still exist. Many of them vote Democrat every single election cycle. Their primative brains prevent them doing anything otherwise.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 11:42:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: blam
What do you mean they never met? I took a couple out to lunch at the Four Seasons just last week!


16 posted on 05/08/2006 11:43:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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17 posted on 05/08/2006 11:44:07 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: blam

Too much roast duck with mango salsa.

18 posted on 05/08/2006 11:44:10 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: RightWhale
"There are plenty of folk-tales and legends about the old people in Europe. Some of these could be about the neanderthals, although 25,000 years would put it way back in oral tradition."

It's possible.

I read where one anthropologist says that Gigantopithicus (large extinct ape) is the source of our legends/myth of 'boogey men.' The youngest Gigantopithicus skeleton ever found is 600,000 years old.

19 posted on 05/08/2006 11:45:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: Yo-Yo

That was a cheap lunch.....Only one of them ordered the roast duck with the mango salsa.


20 posted on 05/08/2006 11:45:31 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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