Posted on 01/17/2006 9:53:58 PM PST by neverdem
Listen more kindly to the New York Irishmen who assure you that the blood of early Irish kings flows in their veins. At least 2 percent of the time, they are telling the truth, according to a new genetic survey.
The survey not only bolsters the bragging rights of some Irishmen claiming a proud heritage but also provides evidence of the existence of Niall of the Nine Hostages, an Irish high king of the fifth century A.D. regarded by some historians as more legend than real.
The survey shows that 20 percent of men in northwestern Ireland carry a distinctive genetic signature on their Y chromosomes, possibly inherited from Niall, who was said to have had numerous sons, or some other leader in a position to have had many descendants.
About one in 50 New Yorkers of European origin - including men with names like O'Connor, Flynn, Egan, Hynes, O'Reilly and Quinn - carry the genetic signature linked with Niall and northwestern Ireland, writes Daniel Bradley, the geneticist who conducted the survey with colleagues at Trinity College in Dublin. He arrived at that estimate after surveying the Y chromosomes in a genetic database that included New Yorkers.
About 400,000 city residents say they are of Irish ancestry, according to a 2004 Census Bureau survey.
"I hope this means that I inherit a castle in Ireland," the novelist Peter Quinn said by phone from the Peter McManus cafe in Chelsea. Some McManuses also have the genetic signature. ("I hang out with kings," Mr. Quinn said.)
He said his father used to tell him that all the Quinn men were bald from wearing a crown. But he added, "We spent 150 years in the Bronx, and I think we wiped out all the royal genes in the process."
The report appears in...
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BTTT
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LONG LIVE IRELAND.
Long live their Irish spirit, character and pride; building blocks of many communities across the globe.
~2nd generation, County Cork.
LONG LIVE THE IRISH WHEREVER THEY ROAM.
LONG LIVE IRELAND.
Hear, hear! I raise my glass to you as well! Have a lot of Irish ancestry as well. :)
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Thanks for the ping... I'll read this ASAP.
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Erin Go Bragh.,
Cheers.
My sept, the O'Dubhda, are directly descended from this man.
"LONG LIVE THE IRISH WHEREVER THEY ROAM."
I second that!
-2nd generation, County Roscommon
I have a letter, written about 100 years ago in New Brunswick by an "Irish relative, claiming Viking ancestry.
These people migrated from Scotland to Northern Ireland, and then to north America.
Mine from Londonderry to Massachusetts (1718) to New Hampshire to Maine to Nova Scotia to New Brunswick to Minnesota (1856) to California (1928).
In the US we call them "Scots-Irish." In Britain and in Canada they call them "Ulster Irish."
Maybe they also descend from Irish nobility.
Guess what folks. That means Bill O'Reilly on Fox may be descended from Irish kings, as O'Reilly is one clan of whom some have the genetic marker. All hail Bill O'Reilly, or is it oh hell, Bill O'Reilly.
Did this Niall have 'tha tirst'?
I always had my reasons to believe this to be true.
Thanks for posting the article.
An Irishman in NY (- since 03/01/1983)
Honeybabe, there is a difference between Nobility and Royalty.
Second nearly everyone with a European ancestor can claim a noble ancestor.
While the genetics are interesting the gingerbread is so much tripe.
They actually have grass that color?
Hmmmmmm, I wonder why it was named "Cork".
Please don't tell me, LOL.
O'Leni
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