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Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest
Times Online UK ^ | January 3, 2006 | Richard Owen

Posted on 01/02/2006 4:30:26 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

AN ITALIAN judge has ordered a priest to appear in court this month to prove that Jesus Christ existed.

The case against Father Enrico Righi has been brought in the town of Viterbo, north of Rome, by Luigi Cascioli, a retired agronomist who once studied for the priesthood but later became a militant atheist.

Signor Cascioli, author of a book called The Fable of Christ, began legal proceedings against Father Righi three years ago after the priest denounced Signor Cascioli in the parish newsletter for questioning Christ’s historical existence.

Yesterday Gaetano Mautone, a judge in Viterbo, set a preliminary hearing for the end of this month and ordered Father Righi to appear. The judge had earlier refused to take up the case, but was overruled last month by the Court of Appeal, which agreed that Signor Cascioli had a reasonable case for his accusation that Father Righi was “abusing popular credulity”.

Signor Cascioli’s contention — echoed in numerous atheist books and internet sites — is that there was no reliable evidence that Jesus lived and died in 1st-century Palestine apart from the Gospel accounts, which Christians took on faith. There is therefore no basis for Christianity, he claims.

Signor Cascioli’s one-man campaign came to a head at a court hearing last April when he lodged his accusations of “abuse of popular credulity” and “impersonation”, both offences under the Italian penal code. He argued that all claims for the existence of Jesus from sources other than the Bible stem from authors who lived “after the time of the hypothetical Jesus” and were therefore not reliable witnesses.

Signor Cascioli maintains that early Christian writers confused Jesus with John of Gamala, an anti-Roman Jewish insurgent in 1st-century Palestine. Church authorities were therefore guilty of “substitution of persons”.

The Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius mention a “Christus” or “Chrestus”, but were writing “well after the life of the purported Jesus” and were relying on hearsay.

Father Righi said there was overwhelming testimony to Christ’s existence in religious and secular texts. Millions had in any case believed in Christ as both man and Son of God for 2,000 years.

“If Cascioli does not see the sun in the sky at midday, he cannot sue me because I see it and he does not,” Father Righi said.

Signor Cascioli said that the Gospels themselves were full of inconsistencies and did not agree on the names of the 12 apostles. He said that he would withdraw his legal action if Father Righi came up with irrefutable proof of Christ’s existence by the end of the month.

The Vatican has so far declined to comment.

THE EVIDENCE

The Gospels say that Jesus was born to the Virgin Mary in Bethlehem, grew up in Nazareth, preached and performed miracles in Galilee and died on the Cross in Jerusalem

In his Antiquities of the Jews at the end of the 1st century, Josephus, the Jewish historian, refers to Jesus as “a wise man, a doer of wonderful works” who “drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles”

Muslims believe Jesus was a great prophet. Many Jewish theologians regard Jesus as an itinerant rabbi who popularised many of the beliefs of liberal Jews. Neither Muslims nor Jews believe he was the Messiah and Son of God

Tacitus, the Roman historian who lived from 55 to 120, mentions “Christus” in his Annals. In about 120 Suetonius, author of The Lives of the Caesars, says: “Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, Emperor Claudius expelled them from Rome.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antichristianity; jesushaters; priest
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1 posted on 01/02/2006 4:30:27 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Italy has its own version of the 9th Circuit, I see.


2 posted on 01/02/2006 4:31:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The judge in question is going to have a difficult time explaining that one when his time comes.


3 posted on 01/02/2006 4:33:00 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Pingaroo


4 posted on 01/02/2006 4:33:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Itialy is a great place...but has a lot of idiots walking the streets!


5 posted on 01/02/2006 4:33:15 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"The State has proven that there is no god!"
"You cannot erase God with an edict."

...Fritz Weaver as the Chancellor and Burgess Meredith as Romney Wordsworth, speaking Rod Serling's words, in the Twilight Zone episode "The Obsolete Man".

6 posted on 01/02/2006 4:33:57 PM PST by RichInOC ("In the name of God, let me out!!" "Yes, Chancellor, in the name of God, I WILL let you out!")
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To: InvisibleChurch
for questioning Christ’s historical existence.

The title for this article is (I believe) intentionally misleading. It should have been "Prove Christ Existed" since he is being asked to prove Christ's historical presence. Oh well, sells more papers this way I reckon.
7 posted on 01/02/2006 4:34:42 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Aussie Dasher

and sitting on benches....


8 posted on 01/02/2006 4:34:48 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: eeevil conservative

Sadly, that goes without saying.


9 posted on 01/02/2006 4:35:47 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
LOL, you got to check out this letter someone claiming to be Satan wrote to the ACLU.

C.S.Lewis would be proud.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1550579/posts

10 posted on 01/02/2006 4:35:55 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: InvisibleChurch

What Evangelical preacher wouldn't love this opportunity? :')


11 posted on 01/02/2006 4:36:41 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: InvisibleChurch

Tell ya what. We'll build two pyres, and lay two sacrificed bulls on the pyres. We will then go head to head with the atheists: whosoever answers by fire, let him be God. And if neither burns, the parties go home and the case is dismissed.


12 posted on 01/02/2006 4:37:15 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: InvisibleChurch
This can be done thru numerous historical documents. This judge is a typical secularist who 'thinks he is thinking' when he spouts this Atheist nonsense.

Any competent historian will hand this rube his hat in court.

13 posted on 01/02/2006 4:38:19 PM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: NYer

ping


14 posted on 01/02/2006 4:38:23 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: InvisibleChurch
Neither Muslims nor Jews believe he was the Messiah and Son of God

Neither did 'Judas'......

Judas did NOT take 'Communion'....

Titus 1:2

15 posted on 01/02/2006 4:39:03 PM PST by maestro
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To: InvisibleChurch

Anti-Christ is alive and well in Italy...


16 posted on 01/02/2006 4:39:46 PM PST by BigFinn
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To: mware

God to judge:

"Unfortunately, for you sir, you do exist."


17 posted on 01/02/2006 4:40:28 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Ping for a good debate


18 posted on 01/02/2006 4:40:58 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: keithtoo

I believe it is actually harder to prove that Aristotle existed, because his existence is only verified by his self-confessed disciple.


19 posted on 01/02/2006 4:41:24 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: InvisibleChurch
Maybe he should also try to prove gravity. We know it exists but where does it come from?

Sheez...


20 posted on 01/02/2006 4:42:14 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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