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Paris/France burns, Live thread (night #10)

Posted on 11/05/2005 9:39:59 AM PST by Dane

It is now getting dark in Paris and in all of France(appx. 6:40 PM Paris Time), and if there are any French FR lurkers(lurquers), this may be the thread to post your reports about any further violence.

It seems the French govt. is impotent in it's response to what seems are jihadist thugs and it seems the American media has put a news blackout filter to what is really happening, so as not to embarass their heroes, Chirac et al.

So any news reports or personal reports from what happens tonight are welcome, and don't worry about broken English, reports in French are welcome also, I have no doubt someone can translate.

I really dread putting up a live thread about such a matter, but it seems that the American MSM is following French govt. orders to play down to what it seems is an insurrection.


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To: JWojack

I just read #496 and it looks like France has a long way to go before they realize they're in more trouble than they know.


681 posted on 11/05/2005 5:57:10 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: JWojack
Even a French official had said that this is not really newsworthy! He said that typically, 1,000 cars get torched every month in Paris. Even that is astonishing!

That has to be a case of french pathological denial. One car being deliberately torched in LA or NYC would be big news.

682 posted on 11/05/2005 5:57:57 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Ray66

Has MoDo called it a quagmire yet?


683 posted on 11/05/2005 5:59:13 PM PST by Chuck54 (Free Tom DeLay)
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To: JWojack
The question is, are the "rioters" and the ones behind it going to do as much damage as possible, or is it going to stop, to see if they can force some changes?

It all depends on how much control the leadership of the Indafroga has over their people. If this is hundreds of uncoordinated groups then there is no way it will stop by itself.
684 posted on 11/05/2005 5:59:46 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Dane

Just damn. I thought Spain had picked up the mantle of Vichy when they capitulated in 2003. If Sarkozy quits or is fired, they will have jerked it right back from Spains socialists..


685 posted on 11/05/2005 6:01:19 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: stripes1776; Vicomte13

He was on a thread (I'll try to link to it) stating emphatically that these riots have absolutely nothing to do with Islam whatsoever, it's just institutionalized racism, poverty, and unemployment. He said (you can click the link below) that the non-integration was part of the problem. Actually some of his comments made some sense, but it did seem he was ignoring the simple fact that virtually all the perps just happen to be Muslim... He said that keeping the (muslim) immigrants segregated in enclaves was part of the problem. But I read that the (muslim) immigrants liked to be all together in clumps and did not want to be integrated with the rest of the French population.

Vicomte, what do you think? Are you in France now? The more I read, the more it seems as though Islamism does have something to do with this violence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515542/posts?page=124#124


686 posted on 11/05/2005 6:01:55 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: GonzoGOP

Undoubtedly, you are having people join in who just want to destroy something. Until they break out the lethal force, I don't seen this ending any time soon. It's gotten worse from every night to the next night! It hasn't peaked yet! Although, eventually, they are bound to run out of vehicles to torch...


687 posted on 11/05/2005 6:03:13 PM PST by JWojack (Karen Williams or Diane Sykes or Janice Rogers Brown for the Supreme Court!)
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To: DannyTN
"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive," - Johnny Depp

I wonder if that idiot has already booked seats to get his family out of France.

688 posted on 11/05/2005 6:03:20 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: MineralMan
Thanks for the link to the French news.

I had to laugh. I was expecting a prolonged, in depth coverage of the situation with lots of footage. Instead, there was exactly five minutes and then the anchor switched topic to guess what?

The anti-Bush riots in Argentina.

No wonder the French can't figure out what's happening.

689 posted on 11/05/2005 6:04:42 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: Jo Nuvark
Of course you can.

LOL!

690 posted on 11/05/2005 6:05:53 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad...Jihadn't.)
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To: No Blue States
Thats reassuring but when did 900 cars get torched within 10 days in Oakland?

No, that's 897 cars just Friday night.

If someone torched my car, I'd be looking to torch them.

691 posted on 11/05/2005 6:06:45 PM PST by japaneseghost (()
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To: japaneseghost

Can someone tell me how they are going to stop this? They don't seem capable of getting this under control. Will the youths just get tired of burning cars and quit or will they be emboldened to move on to the Louvre or the Eiffel Tower with a flame thrower.


692 posted on 11/05/2005 6:09:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Shortstop7
The "Most Recommended" comments are fascinating, though.

They are pretty much all of the view that the rioters are thugs, and that the French need to crack down.

There are quite a few pointing to the failure of multiculturalism, as well.

693 posted on 11/05/2005 6:11:05 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: little jeremiah

The clerics don't want them to assimilate! Assimilation is their worst fear!
Here's a snip of what 'aussie' muslims are told in the mosques:


PRESERVING THE ISLAMIC IDENTITY IN THE WEST.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388

The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that o f fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim lan d whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers.



By Br. Amir Abdullah


694 posted on 11/05/2005 6:11:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Fred Nerks
MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!

Freddie, are you saying the MSM needs an "ENEMA."

695 posted on 11/05/2005 6:11:38 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: RummyChick

Already seen tonight where a flamethrower was used to ignite several cars near downtown Paris. If anyone has heard different please correct me.


696 posted on 11/05/2005 6:11:47 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: Dane; All

Wonderful!


697 posted on 11/05/2005 6:11:52 PM PST by olde north church (First Council of Conservative Revolutionaries (FCCR))
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To: Shortstop7
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=144&&&edition=2&ttl=20051106014919

check out this guy (/hurl) about page 10 of comments

I live in Oklahoma City, a place that knows the tragedy of domestic terrorism. To my French brothers I promise this: I will stop at nothing to make sure that the United Nations condemns this kind of behavior. No matter how long it takes I will support any resolution that condemns this in the strongest possible terms! I am a friend of the French and will stand with them in the same way they have shown their support and commitment to the American People.

The UN ROFL yeah they'll help

698 posted on 11/05/2005 6:12:49 PM PST by badpacifist ( Numbers 22 :27-31 If your ass won't move there may be an angel in the way)
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To: GonzoGOP
So they have to put in a four hour day?

ROFLMAO

699 posted on 11/05/2005 6:13:22 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Dane

Even if the report from AFP of the use of a Flame Thrower in central Paris is true ( which we can't take for granted from media types ) , it would not surprise me to see it disappear tomorrow.

This is the sort of thing that could get under people's skin.


700 posted on 11/05/2005 6:13:26 PM PST by Cplus (Flame Throwers)
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