He was on a thread (I'll try to link to it) stating emphatically that these riots have absolutely nothing to do with Islam whatsoever, it's just institutionalized racism, poverty, and unemployment. He said (you can click the link below) that the non-integration was part of the problem. Actually some of his comments made some sense, but it did seem he was ignoring the simple fact that virtually all the perps just happen to be Muslim... He said that keeping the (muslim) immigrants segregated in enclaves was part of the problem. But I read that the (muslim) immigrants liked to be all together in clumps and did not want to be integrated with the rest of the French population.
Vicomte, what do you think? Are you in France now? The more I read, the more it seems as though Islamism does have something to do with this violence.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515542/posts?page=124#124
The clerics don't want them to assimilate! Assimilation is their worst fear!
Here's a snip of what 'aussie' muslims are told in the mosques:
PRESERVING THE ISLAMIC IDENTITY IN THE WEST.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388
The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that o f fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim lan d whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers.
By Br. Amir Abdullah
No shi'ite, Shirlock. Chirac agreed that Muslim immigrants don't have to assimilate (I'll dig up the evidence if anyone cares). Muslims are demanding the areas they occupy to be considered Islamic and off limits to the kuffar. Islam is much smarter now than when confronting Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski.
And they have appeasers aplenty in Chirac and de Villepin.
The more I read, the more it seems as though Islamism does have something to do with this violence.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROTFLMBO!
I am in Connecticut right now.
The beur are the primary rioters, although there are black Africans in among them.
People of North African descent are of Muslim origin. This does not perforce make them Muslims.
Is every white French person a Catholic?
Just about everybody is baptized. Does that make them Catholics?
I would say that to be a Catholic, you have to actually believe the religion and practice it. Having water poured on your head as an infant and being white and French is not enough.
Likewise, being born to parents who were of Muslim origin is not enough to make one a Muslim. You have to believe there is no God but Allah, that Mohammed is his prophet, and practice the religion to be a Muslim.
What I see is the calling of all Arabs Muslims.
Every white person in America or France is a Christian or a Jew, right? Southern blacks are Christians, and Northern blacks, unless they are Black Muslims, are Christians, right?
Therefore, the Detroit riots and the LA riots and the riots in Watts...and every single riot in Europe, is always a Christian riot, because it is all Christians rioting, right?
If you say "That's ridiculous!", I agree. It is ridiculous.
And it's just as ridiculous if the French riots.
The rioters are mostly Beurs, and young. Nobody will dispute that. It's an ethnic riot, among French people who are the children of immigrants.
So, are the French cops, and is the French government, Christians trying to hold the line? Is the Foreign Legion, when it goes on deployment, a Christian force?
No.
Because the language and intentions of the government, the police, or the Legionnaires is not the language of Christian conversion and resistance, but the language of the secular French state.
Likewise, listen to the rioters interviewed, such as in this article. Where was there any Islam in that?
Folks are saying: brown-skinned Arab, therefore Islam.
But that is obtuse. White-skinned European, therefore Christian. The environmentalist protestors who burn things at all of the G-8 summits are almost all white European males. Ergo, this is militant Christianity?
To the same extent that what is going on in the banlieu is Muslim.
Now, once the rhetoric becomes that of Islam, and not that of socio-economic anger at the French state, and anger at the abuses done by the French police, it will have become an Islamic movement. But that is not the case now. Now, it is an ethnic integration issue.