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French Rioters Shoot at Police, Fire Crews
AP ^ | November 3, 2005 | JAMEY KEATEN

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:00:21 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Rioting youths shot at police and firefighters Thursday after burning car dealerships and public buses and hurling rocks at commuter trains. France's government faced growing pressure to curb the violence, fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects.

Rampaging for an eighth day, youths ignored an appeal for calm from French President Jacques Chirac, whose government worked feverishly to fend off a political crisis amid criticism that it has ignored problems in suburbs heavily populated by first- and second-generation North African and Muslim immigrants.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin called a string of emergency meetings with Cabinet ministers throughout the day. He told the Senate the government "will not give in" to violence in the troubled suburbs.

"Order and justice will be the final word in our country," Villepin said. "The return to calm and the restoration of public order are the priority _ our absolute priority."

The riots started last Thursday after the electrocution deaths of two teenagers hiding in a power station from police they believed were chasing them in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois.

By Wednesday night, violence had spread to at least 20 Paris-region towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the violence has been concentrated. He said youths in the region fired four shots at riot police and firefighters but caused no injuries.

Nine people were injured in Seine-Saint-Denis and 315 cars burned across the Paris area, officials said. In the tough northeastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, youth gangs set fire to a Renault car dealership and burned at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium.

Traffic was halted Thursday morning on a suburban commuter line linking Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains overnight at the Le Blanc-Mesnil station. They forced a conductor from one train and broke windows, the SNCF rail authority said. A passenger was lightly injured by broken glass.

The unrest has highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs, with frustration simmering in the housing projects in areas marked by high unemployment, crime and poverty.

The violence also cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community _ its Muslim population, at an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest _ by playing down differences between ethnic groups. Rather than feeling embraced as full and equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.

Opposition groups accused the government of letting the situation spiral out of control, either by failing to act quickly enough or letting in too many immigrants over the years.

"We see that the situation in certain neighborhoods is not getting better at all but degenerating," Socialist Party President Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCI television, who said Chirac's conservatives "did not know how to take control."

Right-wing French lawmaker Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France," told RTL radio that the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

"We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; france; frenchriots; islam; muslim; paris; parisriots; religionofpeace; riot; rop
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To: West Coast Conservative
".....France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades."

The freaking French STILL won't acknowledge that the Islamanazis have been simmering for a rematch in Europe for CENTURIES!.....

The re-conquest has commenced and France will surrender before Christmas -- so as not to inflame the "sensitivies" of their Islamanazis...

Semper Fi

61 posted on 11/03/2005 9:41:19 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects"

- This should read "fuled by Mohammed & Koran inspired hatred against non-muslims"


62 posted on 11/03/2005 9:44:45 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: Red Badger

Naaah, Hiroshima over Paris is much more likely..

Semper Fi


63 posted on 11/03/2005 9:45:35 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ncountylee

Minister of Social Cohesion

He's done a great job keeping the muslims cohesive.


64 posted on 11/03/2005 9:45:47 AM PST by bkepley
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To: talleyman
or call your congressman.
65 posted on 11/03/2005 9:46:15 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: rockthecasbah

LOL!


66 posted on 11/03/2005 9:46:52 AM PST by Keme (Bush Contra Mundum)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ah, they brought the West Bank, Gaza, and Cairo right to the streets of Paris. This is what liberalism does.


67 posted on 11/03/2005 9:47:39 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: travlnmn41

"When will European idiots realize that Muslims in their countries DO NOT WANT to assimilate???"

- When they drop PC as their religion and stop assuming everyone in the world holds their worldview.


68 posted on 11/03/2005 9:48:24 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: river rat
Perhaps France should deport the bastards back to their fine TURD World homes..

Iwas raised in Mississippi. The poorest state in the union. No running water, Outhouse out back, washed clothes in tubs, boiled rainwater in yardpots. We never rioted. We just made damn sure we got educated the hell out of there!!.......

69 posted on 11/03/2005 9:49:08 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: West Coast Conservative
French Rioters Shoot at Police, Fire Crews

I wonder how long it will take the French authorities to realize that the rioters will keep rioting until the headlines change to "French Police Shoot at Rioters".

70 posted on 11/03/2005 9:49:22 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: PilloryHillary
"...the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

WRONG!

The problem stems from the failure of rabid Islamanazis to adjust to civilization, self control and moral behavior.

Semper Fi

71 posted on 11/03/2005 9:50:35 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

links?

not yet. I have asked for the same from a few people posting about it in several of these paris burning threads.

I will see what I can dig up on my own in a bit and get back to you. I do not doubt it a bit because it is being widely 'reported'. (wink)


72 posted on 11/03/2005 9:52:35 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Rutles4Ever
Despite all the crap that we get from the French we do not want them to be hit by terrorists. I am afraid that these islamic riots will lead to horrible terrorists acts in France.
73 posted on 11/03/2005 9:54:21 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: SkyPilot

I forget...were they watching occupying Nazi troops on parade or Allied liberators?


74 posted on 11/03/2005 9:56:04 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: proud_yank; Smartass; Seadog Bytes

Look at the photo in #39.......Might this be a task for you talented graphic geniuses?


75 posted on 11/03/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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To: Rennes Templar
Nazi troops entering Paris.

My uncle told me that when he entered Paris in 1944, the French women went wild over the American, Canadian, and British soldiers. Also, the soldiers always had lots of money and cigarettes to "barter" with.

It really ticked off the French men. I smile every time I think about that.

76 posted on 11/03/2005 10:02:20 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Red Badger

Ditto -- almost!

Small dirt farm, Viginia, but we had a pump (running water) on the back porch.

Starting at 8 years old, spent much of spring and summer preparing "central heat" firewood for winter.

Semper Fi


77 posted on 11/03/2005 10:03:18 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'll bet the local drug gangs are behind this. They're the ones who were taking the brunt of the police crackdown.


78 posted on 11/03/2005 10:05:01 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: dirtboy
JMHO on a very minor correction:
I wonder how long it will take the French authorities to realize that the rioters will keep rioting until the headlines change to "French Police Shoot at Rioters".
79 posted on 11/03/2005 10:05:25 AM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: SkyPilot

It was the first chance those French woman had to sleep with a WINNER!

Semper Fi


80 posted on 11/03/2005 10:05:53 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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