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French Rioters Shoot at Police, Fire Crews
AP ^ | November 3, 2005 | JAMEY KEATEN

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:00:21 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Rioting youths shot at police and firefighters Thursday after burning car dealerships and public buses and hurling rocks at commuter trains. France's government faced growing pressure to curb the violence, fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects.

Rampaging for an eighth day, youths ignored an appeal for calm from French President Jacques Chirac, whose government worked feverishly to fend off a political crisis amid criticism that it has ignored problems in suburbs heavily populated by first- and second-generation North African and Muslim immigrants.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin called a string of emergency meetings with Cabinet ministers throughout the day. He told the Senate the government "will not give in" to violence in the troubled suburbs.

"Order and justice will be the final word in our country," Villepin said. "The return to calm and the restoration of public order are the priority _ our absolute priority."

The riots started last Thursday after the electrocution deaths of two teenagers hiding in a power station from police they believed were chasing them in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois.

By Wednesday night, violence had spread to at least 20 Paris-region towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the violence has been concentrated. He said youths in the region fired four shots at riot police and firefighters but caused no injuries.

Nine people were injured in Seine-Saint-Denis and 315 cars burned across the Paris area, officials said. In the tough northeastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, youth gangs set fire to a Renault car dealership and burned at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium.

Traffic was halted Thursday morning on a suburban commuter line linking Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains overnight at the Le Blanc-Mesnil station. They forced a conductor from one train and broke windows, the SNCF rail authority said. A passenger was lightly injured by broken glass.

The unrest has highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs, with frustration simmering in the housing projects in areas marked by high unemployment, crime and poverty.

The violence also cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community _ its Muslim population, at an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest _ by playing down differences between ethnic groups. Rather than feeling embraced as full and equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.

Opposition groups accused the government of letting the situation spiral out of control, either by failing to act quickly enough or letting in too many immigrants over the years.

"We see that the situation in certain neighborhoods is not getting better at all but degenerating," Socialist Party President Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCI television, who said Chirac's conservatives "did not know how to take control."

Right-wing French lawmaker Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France," told RTL radio that the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

"We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; france; frenchriots; islam; muslim; paris; parisriots; religionofpeace; riot; rop
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To: West Coast Conservative

The local Al Qaeda types must be licking their chops, awaiting their orders....


41 posted on 11/03/2005 9:23:45 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This must be the retaliation for France's enthusiastic support of the U.S. invasion of Iraq.


42 posted on 11/03/2005 9:23:45 AM PST by rockthecasbah (Today is the greatest day I've ever known. Can't wait for tomorrow.)
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To: sarasota; nw_arizona_granny; nwctwx; WestCoastGal; Rushmore Rocks; ExSoldier

>> Countrywide riots are scheduled for tomorrow, according to bloggers. <<

Second report of this I've seen today. Can you provide some links sarasota?


((( TM Ping )))
Granny & nwctwx, can you folks ping your lists?


43 posted on 11/03/2005 9:23:52 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Well, once someone points out that the loser muslim extremists are going to be drawn like flies to the proverbial pile(in this case France), and that this may aid in diminishing the destruction aimed against our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq (thereby actually helping out the USA),,THEN you'll see some French action (not sure there is a French term for action)!


44 posted on 11/03/2005 9:24:44 AM PST by austinaero
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To: appalachian_dweller

I've only read about it here on various threads who credit "bloggers".


45 posted on 11/03/2005 9:26:26 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Oh. Okay. So you've seen the reports as well.

Think it credible?


46 posted on 11/03/2005 9:28:06 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
.. Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said .. "We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," ..

No doubt about that.

47 posted on 11/03/2005 9:28:38 AM PST by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: moasicwolf

The French authorities are chopping down the trees on the Champs Elysee. Whilr the Germans preferred the shade they offered, the Arabs prefer the sun!


48 posted on 11/03/2005 9:30:25 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Angry Muslims are overplaying their hand again. Pretty soon every country in the world will be against them.


49 posted on 11/03/2005 9:31:00 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: misterrob

Entitlement is a tremendously corrosive attitude.


50 posted on 11/03/2005 9:31:28 AM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: untenured

"I fit is quiet, it may be winding down.

For this round."

It is not going to wind down anytime soon. Today & Tomorrow are the end of Ramadan(depending on where you live etc.) Islamists in France are calling for wide spread rioting on Islamist websites.


51 posted on 11/03/2005 9:31:34 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Rutles4Ever
You got it, brother. Bomb belts are about to become real chichi over there.
52 posted on 11/03/2005 9:31:41 AM PST by oyez
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To: West Coast Conservative

53 posted on 11/03/2005 9:32:19 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Who knows? In either case, it will be very telling.


54 posted on 11/03/2005 9:32:47 AM PST by sarasota
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To: penelopesire

>> Islamists in France are calling for wide spread rioting on Islamist websites. <<

links?


55 posted on 11/03/2005 9:35:42 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: sarasota

Seen reports that the rioters admitted this has been planned for weeks. If true, this could get worse.


56 posted on 11/03/2005 9:37:02 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

ping


57 posted on 11/03/2005 9:37:22 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Red Badger
"..fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects."

Perhaps France should deport the bastards back to their fine TURD World homes..

Semper Fi

58 posted on 11/03/2005 9:37:23 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Dallas59

"Grêler Allah !"

59 posted on 11/03/2005 9:39:18 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: West Coast Conservative

60 posted on 11/03/2005 9:39:54 AM PST by SkyPilot
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