Posted on 09/01/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by Paul Ross
China is preparing for nuclear war with the United States over Taiwan, and a conflict is likely in the near future because of divisions among Beijing's leaders, a Chinese democracy activist says.
Wei Jingsheng, a leading international advocate for political reform in China, said in an interview with The Washington Times that President Bush and other U.S. leaders do not fully understand the chance of a conflict breaking out and must do more to avert it.
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I say let them have Taiwan ....
It ain't worth American lives to defend .
We had our chance to defeat Mao and support the Nationalists back in the day . Now it's too late .
Look at the handovers of Hong Kong and Macau .
Have their been any big disasters there? I think not...
We need to be smart about this . Change China with diplomatic interactions and financial engagement. Support all pro Democracy advocates quietly and let time take it's course.
But get into a fight over Taiwan? Never....
Appearances can be deceiving.
Siobhan wrote: "While the country appears to be down on its knees from Katrina is the perfect time for America's enemies to hit us in as many ways as possible."
OPINION:
Anything is possible.
Our enemies hate us.
As I always say:
TERRORISM IS GLOBAL.
TERRORISTS ARE GLOBAL.
That said, our country is NOT "down on its knees."
We have an emergency.
We are dealing with it.
Many of us are down on our knees in prayer.
Now that is a good thing.
They will need an enemy all the people have been raised to fear.
imo
Anyone who automatically dismisses this as an empty threat is a fool, IMHO.
Ping.
Noo Kyu All Wall of China?
April 30, 2001 - Russian military forces intervened in a mock nuclear conflict between China and the United States over Taiwan during strategic exercises that included Russian preparations to use nuclear weapons on U.S. forces in Asia, The Washington Times has learned.
Russian forces help China in mock conflict
Feb 2002 - China's military is covertly buying U.S. commercial satellite photographs of Taiwan that U.S. intelligence officials say will be used to target the island with the mainland's growing arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles. Satellite photographs of most of the island are being purchased by China through a South Korean company, U.S. intelligence officials say.
Nov 2003 - In a tough statement, the Vice-Minister at Beijing's Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi said Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian's recent pro-separatist activities had crossed Beijing's "red line" and that they "run the risk of triggering a war" with the mainland. "War will break out if the island declares formal independence," state media on Wednesday quoted Wang as saying.
July 26, 2004 - About 18,000 Chinese troops using their country's most advanced weapons systems last week rehearsed coordinated air, sea and ground attacks on Dongshan, an island in the South China Sea that resembles Taiwan in terrain and weather.
Feb 7, 2005 - Quietly, with almost no notice taken in the U.S. media, Russia and China have just stepped up their military cooperation to a level not seen in half a century since the end of the Korean War.
Mar 8, 2005 — China unveiled a law Tuesday authorizing an attack if Taiwan moves toward formal independence, increasing pressure on the self-ruled island while warning other countries not to interfere.
June 26, 2005 - China is building its military forces faster than U.S. intelligence and military analysts expected, prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan in the next two years, according to Pentagon officials. U.S. defense and intelligence officials say all the signs point in one troubling direction: Beijing then will be forced to go to war with the United States, which has vowed to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack.
June 28, 2005 - China's decision to open up massive bomb shelters to the public, ostensibly to provide a respite from summer heat, has U.S. intelligence analysts concerned about a possible strategic deception by Beijing, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. The Chinese specialist agreed with others knowledgeable about nuclear arms that such a maneuver – opening up large fallout shelters to the public on a regular basis would serve two strategic purposes for Beijing: It would familiarize the Chinese people to the shelters, making it easier to evacuate the public in times of potential nuclear attack; It would confuse Western intelligence analysts who monitor movements of the Chinese public by satellite as evidence of the government's intentions; In addition to monitoring missile launches, U.S. national security officials keep an eye on large-scale public movements in countries like China. If, for instance, city residents were seen moving in large numbers into fallout shelters, it would be a sign the government might be preparing for an attack of some kind.
But if such massive movements became routine – because shelters are opened up in the heat of summer and in the cold of winter to provide shelters from the elements – then such movements would more likely be disregarded as militarily insignificant in the West.
"Think about it," said one U.S. intelligence source. "If you were planning, at some point in the future, to launch a pre-emptive first strike on some enemy, wouldn't it make sense to do what the Chinese are doing?"
Anyone else hear a drum beat?
No. They would wait for a Democrat in the White House
Well, could you show a realistic plan for how China would win a nuclear war with the United States? They have 20 single-warhead ICBMs that can reach the US, and we have 7,200 warheads we can deliver to them.
See #29...you need to add Russia into the factor.
They figure we would rather lose Taiwan than lose LA. They're right.
Maybe, maybe not. At a time like this we'd be much less inclined to worry about concepts like "proportional response" and "collateral damage".
"Well, could you show a realistic plan for how China would win a nuclear war with the United States?"
No. And that is not the point. In my estimation, China is banking on the idea that America will not support defending Taiwan and will invade, threatening with nuclear war all the while.
The issue is not what you would do, or what I would do, or what any rational person would do.
It is, what will CHINA do? And I repeat, anybody who dismisses this is a fool.
But are the leaders of China willing to lose their bunker in order to get Taiwan?
And are the Taiwanese willing to just meekly surrender instead of nuking Beijing themselves?
I didn't express any apreciation for the chicom government in my post. Where ever did you get that Idea?
I see no reason for the US to rise to the nuclear bait regardless of who casts it out there.
If Taiwan wants to remain independent, it needs to get busy proliferating (after all, it comes down to technology, something Taiwan is really good at). Then, the article would read "China is preparing for nuclear war with the Taiwan over Taiwan, and Taiwanese leaders warn the Chinese people to change their regime or risk nuclear genocide".
If it comes down to POTUS deciding if Taiwan is worth risking LA and SF, then Taiwan is Chinese.
New nuclear weapons systems being developed in Russia could include a missile designed to defeat the U.S. missile defence shield.
Among the systems thought to be in the works for Russia's military is a new type of warhead designed to outwit the missile defence shield being developed by the United States.
Experts say the warhead is intended to be manoeuvrable like a cruise missile after re-entering the atmosphere from space.
Reports in Russian news media have suggested Russia is developing a nuclear missile that could carry up to 10 nuclear warheads weighing a total of four tonnes, and a mobile version of its Topol-M ballistic missile.
The Topol-M has a range of 10,000 kilometres, and have been deployed in silos since 1998. They reportedly can manoeuvre in ways that are difficult to detect.
Now...just why would they want a system to outwit ours? Hmmmmm???
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