Posted on 06/08/2005 4:41:38 AM PDT by echoBoomer
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel.
Professor Benjamin Brenner wrote in The Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis that Jesus's death, traditionally believed to have occurred 3-6 hours after crucifixion began, was probably caused by a blood clot that reached his lungs.
Such pulmonary embolisms, leading to sudden death, can stem from immobilisation, multiple trauma and dehydration, said Brenner, a researcher at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.
"This fits well with Jesus's condition and actually was in all likelihood the major cause of death by crucifixion," he wrote in the article, based on religious and medical texts.
A 1986 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association mentioned the possibility that Jesus suffered a blood clot but concluded that he died of blood loss.
But Brenner said research into blood coagulation had made significant strides over the past two decades.
He said recent medical research has linked immobility among passengers on lengthy air flights to deep vein thrombosis, popularly known as "economy-class syndrome" in which potentially fatal blood clots can develop, usually in the lower legs.
Brenner noted that before crucifixion, Jesus underwent scourging, but the researcher concluded that "the amount of blood loss by itself" would not have killed him.
He said that Jesus, as a Jew from what is now northern Israel, may have been particular at risk to a fatal blood clot.
Thrombophilia, a rare condition in which blood has an increased tendency to clot, is common to natives of the Galilee, the researcher wrote.
© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.
They were sinners, like you and I. Yet they trusted God.
Also, for those that were chosen, there's no need to heed Jesus' commission to his church to go and make disciples, baptize them, and teach them. Either you're in or your out, period. End of discussion. End of story. Let's all go do as we please, because in the end, nothing matters, at least regarding your salvation.
However, the Scriptures teach that both God’s sovereignty and man’s free will are components of this ultimately important decision. The Bible (taken in its entirety) clearly emphasizes the universal fact of sin and guilt on man’s part.
“As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one. . . . that all the world may become guilty before God” (Romans 3:10, 19).
It also stresses that the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ was completely adequate to atone for the sin and guilt of all men everywhere.
“He is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world”(1 John 2:2).
“. . . that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9).
God, in His Word, offers salvation freely to anyone who will simply believe and receive it as an unmerited gift (grace).
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23).
“Whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely” (Revelation 22:17).
Each person is held responsible for the consequences of making a wrong decision.
“He that believeth not the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him” (John 3:36).
“The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (2 Thessalonians 1:7, 8).
It is clear, to most, that every person, without exception, can be saved if he wants to be, by coming in simple faith to accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior, recognizing Jesus as the ONLY way he will be saved and reconciled unto GOD the Father.
However, for those who are not believing Christians, on the other hand, the issue remains one of human responsibility—either to live a life of absolute holiness and sinless perfection from birth to death (as did Jesus Christ), or else to come in repentant faith to that One who died for mankind’s sin and was raised for mankind's justification.
“...whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:15).
"For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, shall not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
Again, taking the message of the Bible, as a whole, predestination/preselection/ predetermination of those individuals who are saved and those who aren't cannot stand on it's own merits. We have ALL been predestinated by GOD for salvation, but through our own free will, only some of us will repent and accept that gift of grace so freely offered to ALL through Jesus' sacrifice accepted by the Father in leiu of our own worthless deeds.
"If one was found, the Heaven rejoiced"
Yes. But what if one was not found?
***Yes. But what if one was not found?***
In 20 years Carey found three. Let's rejoice in fact instead of wallowing in conjecture.
Did God lose them?
Speak for yourself, buddy. I never endorsed slavery.
Yet they trusted God.
In regards to what? Owning slaves? Attacking abolitionists? Trying to keep an entire race enslaved?
Yet they trusted God... Getting back to Charlie Manson -- maybe he trusted God too?
***Speak for yourself, buddy. I never endorsed slavery.***
So you are without any sin?
Good for you.
I have posted plenty of Scripture, with little comments and attempts to refute.
As for your attacks on my intellect, that is childish.
And, Calvinism is the most logically concise system of theology out there.
As for "one thread after another," I have not posted on this topic for awhile, at least to this extent. So, I highly doubt you have seen me on one thread after another.
I have been here posting questions about Scripture and nobody replies.
Looks like I am not the one who can't keep up with the discussion.
You just arrived and have no comments or Scripture to prove your point of view. You just attack.
Yeah, we can see what a holy effect Calvinism has had on prosperous nations like the Netherlands.
Matt 16:26For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
SD
Tortured interpretation?
It is damn plain to anybody when it says his plans can't be thwarted that his plans can't be thwarted.
Unless you are age two, that is not hard to understand, nor is it complex....
No. I just meant that I don't endorse rabid pro-slavery politicans as heroic Americans.
"How can an African-American consciousness and Reformed Theology benefit each other? Where was God in the Atlantic Slave Trade? How does Christianity triumph among people historically oppressed in part by the church itself? Anthony Carter seeks to bring positive, informed responses to such questions"
Pony up $9.99 and read for your self.
If you don't believe in predestination, see Ephesians 1.
It uses the word and plainly describes we are predestined.
God rewards faith.
We need not look so far. Right here we see what "prosperity" and Protestant individualism have brought us. No Catholic country would slay a third of its unborn.
SD
What a small mind you have if that is how you view God's sovereign grace.
I love Him because he first loved me, and I am grateful. I don't love him because I am "programmed" to do so.
Widen your mind.
So then, for the third time, if God's plans can't be thwarted on what basis are some sent to hell?
SD
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