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Britain faces big chill as ocean current slows
The Sunday Times ^

Posted on 05/08/2005 8:21:59 AM PDT by velyrorenry

CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and Europe from freezing.

They have found that one of the “engines” driving the Gulf Stream — the sinking of supercooled water in the Greenland Sea — has weakened to less than a quarter of its former strength.

The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big changes in the current over the next few years or decades. Paradoxically, it could lead to Britain and northwestern and Europe undergoing a sharp drop in temperatures.

Such a change has long been predicted by scientists but the new research is among the first to show clear experimental evidence of the phenomenon.

Peter Wadhams, professor of ocean physics at Cambridge University, hitched rides under the Arctic ice cap in Royal Navy submarines and used ships to take measurements across the Greenland Sea.

“Until recently we would find giant ‘chimneys’ in the sea where columns of cold, dense water were sinking from the surface to the seabed 3,000 metres below, but now they have almost disappeared,” he said.

“As the water sank it was replaced by warm water flowing in from the south, which kept the circulation going. If that mechanism is slowing, it will mean less heat reaching Europe.”

Such a change could have a severe impact on Britain, which lies on the same latitude as Siberia and ought to be much colder. The Gulf Stream transports 27,000 times more heat to British shores than all the nation’s power supplies could provide, warming Britain by 5-8C.

Wadhams and his colleagues believe, however, that just such changes could be well under way. They predict that the slowing of the Gulf Stream is likely to be accompanied by other effects, such as the complete summer melting of the Arctic ice cap by as early as 2020 and almost certainly by 2080. This would spell disaster for Arctic wildlife such as the polar bear, which could face extinction.

Wadhams’s submarine journeys took him under the North Polar ice cap, using sonar to survey the ice from underneath. He has measured how the ice has become 46% thinner over the past 20 years. The results from these surveys prompted him to focus on a feature called the Odden ice shelf, which should grow out into the Greenland Sea every winter and recede in summer.

The growth of this shelf should trigger the annual formation of the sinking water columns. As sea water freezes to form the shelf, the ice crystals expel their salt into the surrounding water, making it heavier than the water below.

However, the Odden ice shelf has stopped forming. It last appeared in full in 1997. “In the past we could see nine to 12 giant columns forming under the shelf each year. In our latest cruise, we found only two and they were so weak that the sinking water could not reach the seabed,” said Wadhams, who disclosed the findings at a meeting of the European Geosciences Union in Vienna.

The exact effect of such changes is hard to predict because currents and weather systems take years to respond and because there are two other areas around the north Atlantic where water sinks, helping to maintain circulation. Less is known about how climate change is affecting these.

However, Wadhams suggests the effect could be dramatic. “One of the frightening things in the film The Day After Tomorrow showed how the circulation in the Atlantic Ocean is upset because the sinking of cold water in the north Atlantic suddenly stops,” he said.

“The sinking is stopping, albeit much more slowly than in the film — over years rather than a few days. If it continues, the effect will be to cool the climate of northern Europe.”

One possibility is that Europe will freeze; another is that the slowing of the Gulf Stream may keep Europe cool as global warming heats the rest of the world — but with more extremes of weather.


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To: gitmo
"So we need to stock up on long undies and furs to prepare for global warming."

If what we're seeing is 'Global Warming,' then that's a fact Jack !!!

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81 posted on 05/08/2005 4:16:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Impeccable scientific reference, wot?"

Perhaps we should check with Barbara Streisand, or Sissy Spacek? (congress does)

82 posted on 05/08/2005 4:18:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: Grampa Dave
"I bought my OJ Simpson Bronco."

You have the OJ Simpson edition? - All I could get is the Eddie Bauer, you must have connections :o)

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83 posted on 05/08/2005 4:29:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: velyrorenry; Sir Gawain
"No need for spin, numbers are numbers."

And Barbara Streisand is Barbara Streisand! - You apparently adheare to the latter.

84 posted on 05/08/2005 4:32:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: velyrorenry

Well in that case I am going to do two things.

1. Start growing food to sell to Europe.

2. Buy stock in future Scottish ski resorts.


85 posted on 05/08/2005 5:11:28 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (My US Army daughter out shot everybody in her basic training company.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Global warming OUT
Global cooling IN


Actually, it should read:

Global cooling OUT
Global warming IN
Global cooling IN

You see back in the 70s, global cooling was thing. Then came global warming and now we're back to global cooling. The only thing common was that increased carbon dioxide was supposed to be causing each of these.


86 posted on 05/08/2005 5:17:27 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: velyrorenry
GOOD GOD!!

Global warming is causing the world to FREEZE.

When will it all end?

87 posted on 05/08/2005 5:24:33 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: righttackle44

:)

its more sinister than that...

he is using his evil Republican powers of the dark side sith to slow down the currents and cause the cold water to mess up everything....

and when everyone is Europe is frozen, he will overtake it with his "Army of the Red @$$", because he is Emperor George the 2nd :)

hehe this was a test of your emergency DUmmy system...


88 posted on 05/08/2005 6:51:14 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: velyrorenry; All

Tsk,tsk, not to worry. Global warming shall save Britain, just as it shall eventually save our frost nipped and shivering gardens, here in North Carolina.

Thank God for Global warming! True patriots will support global warming anyway they can. Run both your furnace and central AC all year long, run SUVs in four wheel drive in all seasons, never walk to where you can drive, adjust your speed to the lights in your town, so you catch all on red and must wait the maxium possible time, keep every light in your house burning 24/7, do all cooking at the hottest period of the day, etc., etc.,. Use your own imagination's!


89 posted on 05/08/2005 7:34:35 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Rather drawing $75,000 per speech? Thank God the country isn't powered by bull sh*t!)
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To: ancient_geezer; Lancey Howard; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Cooling again Ping.


90 posted on 05/08/2005 9:32:27 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; Brad's Gramma; onyx; pollywog; BurbankKarl

Cooling , what happened to the Global Warming?

That could mean the rainy season in southern California will continue....some would like that!


91 posted on 05/08/2005 9:47:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; velyrorenry; Gucho
It's more than just Britain.....see this:

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92 posted on 05/08/2005 9:55:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
some would like that!

ME! ME! ME!

93 posted on 05/08/2005 10:10:35 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; velyrorenry
Observed at Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, Antarctica (History) Elevation: 9285 ft / 2830 m



94 posted on 05/09/2005 12:31:32 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: velyrorenry
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and Europe from freezing.

The Gulf Stream is supposed to be responsible for about 10% of the effect. The rest is caused by the Rocky Mountains.
95 posted on 05/09/2005 12:33:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: velyrorenry
Another day of Eco-Marxist propaganda.

Just relax and read

www.junkscience.com

to see the shoot-down.
96 posted on 05/09/2005 6:11:08 AM PDT by PzGr43
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To: velyrorenry; Sir Gawain

it would be easy to verify.
1) Identify the heat trapping gasses
2) Compare the percentages now with before those before the Industrial Revolution for example.

No need for spin, numbers are numbers.

Indeed, except for the fact that heat trapping gasses have exceeded the current levels by many orders of magnitude without substantial correlation with either hot or cold global conditions. And the measured correlations of global temperature against CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is NIL, being swamped out by many other much stonger factors affecting climate.

CO2-Temperature Correlations

[ see also: Indermuhle et al. (2000), Monnin et al. (2001), Yokoyama et al. (2000), Clark and Mix (2000) ]

[see: Petit et al. (1999), Staufer et al. (1998), Cheddadi et al., (1998), Raymo et al., 1998, Pagani et al. (1999), Pearson and Palmer (1999), Pearson and Palmer, (2000) ]

Global warming and global dioxide emission and concentration:
a Granger causality analysis

http://isi-eh.usc.es/trabajos/122_41_fullpaper.pdf

 

In fact the level of CO2 concentration today, in comparison to geological history is nil!!!

 

Global Surface Temperature and Atmospheric CO2 over Geologic Time 

Late Carboniferous to Early Permian time (315 mya -- 270 mya) is the only time period in the last 600 million years when both atmospheric CO2 and temperatures were as low as they are today (Quaternary Period ).

Temperature after C.R. Scotese
CO2 after R.A. Berner, 1994

  •     There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today. For example, during the Jurassic Period (200 mya), average CO2 concentrations were about 900 ppm or about 2.5 times higher than today. The highest concentrations of CO2 during all of the Paleozoic Era occurred during the Ordovician Period, exceeding 6000 ppm -- more than 16 times higher than today.
  •     The Carboniferous Period and the Ordovician Period were the only geological periods during the Paleozoic Era when global temperatures were as low as they are today.

    To the consternation of global warming proponents, the Late Ordovician Period was also an Ice Age, with CO2 concentrations nearly 15 times higher than today-- 5500 ppm. According to greenhouse theory, Earth should have been exceedingly hot. Instead, global temperatures were no warmer than today. Clearly, other factors besides atmospheric carbon influence earth temperatures and global warming.

 

The relationship between any heating effect of CO2 is logrithmic, i.e. it is not a linear relationship, and each doubling of concentration can only be related to a change in Atmospheric temperature of less than 0.2 degrees Centigrade based on its actual thermal characteristics.

The reality is a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentration over current levels, that the UN/IPCC "story line" pretends, even if were true, could not induce significant temperature change whatever its source.

Climate Catastrophe, A spectroscopic Artifact?

"It is hardly to be expected that for CO2 doubling an increment of IR absorption at the 15 µm edges by 0.17% can cause any significant global warming or even a climate catastrophe.

The radiative forcing for doubling can be calculated by using this figure. If we allocate an absorption of 32 W/m2 [14] over 180º steradiant to the total integral (area) of the n3 band as observed from satellite measurements (Hanel et al., 1971) and applied to a standard atmosphere, and take an increment of 0.17%, the absorption is 0.054 W/m2 - and not 4.3 W/m2.

This is roughly 80 times less than IPCC's radiative forcing.

If we allocate 7.2 degC as greenhouse effect for the present CO2 (as asserted by Kondratjew and Moskalenko in J.T. Houghton's book The Global Climate [14]), the doubling effect should be 0.17% which is 0.012 degC only. If we take 1/80 of the 1.2 degC that result from Stefan-Boltzmann's law with a radiative forcing of 4.3 W/m2, we get a similar value of 0.015 degC."

 

The basis of global warming models:

Ramanthan (Journal of Geophysical Review, vol. 84, pp. 4949-4958) states:

"the direct radiative effects of doubled CO2 can cause a maximum surface warming [at the equator] of about 0.2 K, and hence roughly 90% of the 2.0-2.5 K surface warming obtained by the GCM is caused by atmospheric feedback processes described above."

A Lukewarm Greenhouse
"
The average warming predicted by the six methods for a doubling of CO2, is only +0.2 degC."

In otherwords, CHAOS, butterflies create hurricanes but dragonflies can't.

The UN/IPCC models achieve their results by selectively multiplying changes in heat balance for changes in CO2 concentration 10 times and more over that of any other mechanism of thermal variation. Where radiative forcing of CO2 is selectively multiplied by 10, other mechanisms of similar magnitude are not allowed to be enhanced by the same thermally driven "atmospheric feedback processes described".

The atmospheric "feedback processes described" are those implemented into UN/IPCC climate models. They constitute speculative and inadequate mechanisms at best, presumptive at worst, by which the atmosphere might respond to changes in radiative heat balance.

None of the "feedback processes" are based in any measured direct or parametric relationship selectively coupled to CO2 concentrations alone. This selective sensitivity (i.e. instability in the model) is inferred to be a cause of greater change than the initiating power input to the system.

A good read:

The Non-Science
of Global Warming

By Robert E. Stevenson, Ph.D. *
Published in
21 st Century Science & Technology magazine
(Winter 1996-97 edition, Vol. 9 No. 4, pp. 51-59)
http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/INGLES/ocean-1.html

Along with the Douglas V. Hoyt's(Senior Scientist with Raytheon/ITSS) essay on the subject:
http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/

97 posted on 05/09/2005 10:16:31 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Ernest_at_the_Beach
some would like that!

ME! ME! ME!

........and Me, Me, Me TOO!!*GBG*

98 posted on 05/10/2005 7:48:37 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Ernest_at_the_Beach
some would like that!

ME! ME! ME!

........and Me, Me, Me TOO!!*GBG*

99 posted on 05/10/2005 7:52:46 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: ancient_geezer

Thanks, Excellent addition!


100 posted on 05/10/2005 8:40:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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