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A liberal - To the Republican community. Should we leave? [too DUmb to ZOT]
Posted on 02/13/2005 2:00:25 AM PST by The_Liberal Person
A liberal - To the Republican community.
1. What are your goals as Republicans?
2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?
3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?
4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?
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To: The_Liberal Person
It's the LIBERALS that try to divide this country with their class warfare BS. And with THIS Liberal, there are NO words to reason with him, the back-stabber*!!:
* "Back-stabber": Referring to the award that GHW Bush gave Kennedy in College Station, Texas in January of 2004, and then Kennedy is on the Senate floor spewing hate about Dubya the very next week.
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posted on
02/13/2005 4:57:35 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: MadIvan; The_Liberal Person
Oh, I think the Government could buy them tickets alright...but they are all one-way to outer siberia! ;-)I would support and even contribute to a private fund to subsidize a one way outgoing ticket across the US Border for any liberals willing to legally, permanently and officially renounce their US citizenship.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:00:58 AM PST
by
Samurai_Jack
(ride out and confront the evil!)
To: The_Liberal Person
I dont give a Shi'ite what you do , its a free country, No thanks to liberals.
To: Samurai_Jack
I would support and even contribute to a private fund to subsidize a one way outgoing ticket across the US Border for any liberals willing to legally, permanently and officially renounce their US citizenship.A private fund is all right; I might even donate to that, so long as we establish where the liberals are to go to, and it's not Britain. I suggest our Canadian bretheren sever their ties to Quebec, and all of the liberals are dumped in Montreal.
However, spending of that kind should be voluntary.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:03:07 AM PST
by
MadIvan
(One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
To: The_Liberal Person
This way liberals live in all the blue states and conservatives in the red states.Do you plan on forced relocation or may I continue to live on my little red island in a sea of blue?
The problem is, every time a liberal posts anything, it seems a lot of Republicans wont even listen.
Try saying something sensible.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:03:13 AM PST
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: The_Liberal Person
1. What are your goals as Republicans? 2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?
3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?
4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?
These are 4 questions only Republicans can answer, this means only the Republican community. The goal is to build a framework of civil communication between Liberals and Republicans. Do Republican plan to share this country or should Liberals leave?
Serious answer to a probably not serious question. We tried, and tried hard, to get along with you for 25 years at least -- since the election of Ronald Reagan. Your responses everytime have been arrogant and wicked.
What you did to:
Linda Tripp
Ken Starr
Clarence Thomas
Robert Bork, and a dozen others at least.
What you tried to do to:
President Bush,
President Reagan,
Secretary Ashcroft,
Secretary Rumsfeld,
Speaker Gingrich,
as well as Katherine Harris, Condolezza Rice, Attorney General Gonzales, Mel Gibson, and many more.
What should you do now?
Get in line. Become the Loyal Opposition, but the main emphasis in that phrase is "LOYAL", and you need to learn to play nice.
If you don't, we'll defeat you, and defeat you utterly.
To: Melas
"they are not the enemy, they are the opposition, and they are our countrymen."
in my book, enemies of truth and justice are enemies of America.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:06:20 AM PST
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine!)
To: 9999lakes
One other thing --- You've been calling me names for years. I remember the first time I realized the "Right-Wing Radical" meant ME!
You think I should feel sorry for you?
To: The_Liberal Person
You have been ZOT!ed DU troll.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:08:55 AM PST
by
Paul_Denton
(The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
To: Zacs Mom
in my book, enemies of truth and justice are enemies of America. Well, you're entitled to your opinion I guess. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I honestly don't percieve the average liberal as being against truth or justice.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:11:02 AM PST
by
Melas
To: anniegetyourgun
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:11:40 AM PST
by
MEG33
(GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
To: Melas
It's scary when you realize just how deep the conservative stereotype these people carry around goes. Btw, I'm married to a Democrat who also voted for Bush this last election.There's never been any acrimony between the two of us- she started as a Goldwater Girl ( the real kind, not the opportunistic Hillary! version ) and grew more liberal in college- but running a small business cured her of a lot of Leftist tendencies-- like Barry said, a government powerful enough to give you stuff can take it right away from you, too.
For what it's worth, I always liked Ronald Reagan's take that it wasn't a matter of Left versus Right, but more freedom, or less. I favor more- even if some people abuse it.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:12:02 AM PST
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: The_Liberal Person
Vote tallies are being announced right now from a newly liberated nation.
Hope nobody gets their ire up over the results...
Bracing for it...
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:13:56 AM PST
by
Allegra
("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
To: The_Liberal Person
first off...your spelling sucks....are you an illegal immigrant?
To: The_Liberal Person
"This way liberals live in all the blue states and conservatives in the red states."
Kind of like creating our own East and West Germany then? Yeah, that's a BRILLIANT idea.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:15:55 AM PST
by
jdm
(Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
To: backhoe
I agree. It really is all about freedom in the end.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:18:33 AM PST
by
Melas
To: The_Liberal Person
"I don't want the government to give me free money"
Hmmmmmm.... You implied EXPECTING the government to pay for plane tickets in your first post. That's not wanting the government to give you free money? C'mon.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:18:58 AM PST
by
jdm
(Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
To: The_Liberal Person
Ah, A reply at last. I'll make this a 2 for one for you, and reply to both your posts in a single shot.
1. What are your goals as Republicans?
Like many here, I'm not a Republican. I'm a registered independant. My goals aren't party line, and quite frankly, they probably only belong to one person in the entire world: me. The values that lead me to frequent a conservative news forum rather than a liberal one are that I demand personal liberty, responsibility, and accountability; I believe that the Constitution under its original intent is the supreme law of this Republic; I love my country; and I love God and my fellow man.
These values can be extrapolated to a number of different positions on situations, such as opposition to a nanny-state and a pro-life stance on abortion. I hope you can see how I can hold such opinions based on my beliefs, but they remain mine alone. I don't have to agree with anybody else. (It is nice to be able to , though.)
2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?
Heck no. If liberals leave these hallowed shores, they'll NEVER learn. ;) Moreover, sometimes I make mistakes, and opposing viewpoints help me correct them (even if I don't come to agree with the opposing viewpoint. There's more than one way to slice cheese.)
What I have NO tolerance for is liberalism shoved down my throat. I cannot in good conscience respect your right to free speech if you will not respect mine. I will not be silenced in the name of political correctness, nor will I accept rule by judicial fiat. Its just un-American.
3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?
This question doesn't make much sense, because everybody on this forum, and everybody who is conservative or even Republican will have a different answer. Suffice it to say that right now, the vast majority of us would tell you the country is being governed too far to the left. For me, though, the country will be too far to the right when I feel compelled to vote to the left. It will always be in flux, and we vote to be ruled as we see fit. That is how our Republic works.
4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?
I know you've been hammered on this before, but i'll do it again in the hopes of knocking some sense into you: GET OFF IT. This is exactly the kind of nanny-state liberal nonsense that conservatives find revolting.
1. It is not "The US Government footing the bill. It is the taxpayers, not some infinite money mill in the basement of Congress. Remidial Econ lesson: Money comes from somwhere.
2. Why should my tax dollars pay for such a ticket? I've never voted for any candidate with any such policy.
That said, if you really want to leave, pay for your own ticket, and don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. I think Fidel Castro would pay to relocate you to Cuba, in all seriousness. Its good PR for him.
I find, though, that most liberals don't want to live in the leftist paradises they praise.
On to your second post.
I'll respond, but most of the responses were liberal hate posts about how the right can't wait for us to leave.
Pshaw! We're all friendly here. We'll be glad to help you break your addiction to liberalism, if you care to stick around. The forum, however, will not tolerate posters of excessive profanity, malicious posts, or hate speech. Try that and you'll get yourself zotted faster than you can say "Admin Moderator."
I think the fact that you've recieved 81 posts, all of which were pretty civil, that we don't "hate" you. We want to help you. There's lots of really smart ex-liberals out there.
My question is, how can we share America? Perhaps one way would be to simply be states rights, and by doing this we seperate the federal government from the states. This way liberals live in all the blue states and conservatives in the red states.
Ok, thats just nuts. Keep in mind, you're already "sharing America." Liberals live in all the blue states and in all the red states. Conservatives do too, and forced relocation won't do. See Yugoslavia for reference. This sort of isolationist thinking betrays extreme narrow-mindedness. You should never be protected from the discourse of ideas.
Moreover, federal government is separate from the states. (I am also of the opinion that it should be more separate than it currently is, but I digress...) Your state government is in charge of a great many things. Some examples include licensing marriage and maintaining roads. Liberalism, however, tends to shift powers to the federal government. Interesting to see that you naturally think conservative thoughts, even if you've been misled.
The problem is, every time a liberal posts anything, it seems a lot of Republicans wont even listen. Most of the responses are "Ah just like them liberals, get out and stay out!" type of responses.
We'll listen when there is a rational argument. Most of the lefties who feel inclined to come and post on FR are only here to cause trouble, rather than to learn. You'll also find that most of us are pretty secure in our beliefs, morals, and standards, so you will be unlikely to convince many here to agree with loony-leftism, Socialism, and Communism. They've all been thoroughly debunked for us.
If, however, you make sense (and a precocious few of you do, although they tend to be conservatives at heart) you'll find us more than open to discussion.
All I can really say to you is stick around and learn.
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:19:14 AM PST
by
NationSoConceived
("Truth bestows no pardon upon error, but wipes it out in the most effectual manner." - M.B.E.)
To: The_Liberal Person
1. What are your goals as Republicans?
Life
Liberty
The Pursuit of Happiness
2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?
No. We want them to join us.
3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?
We had 60 years of uninterrupted Liberalism. We're just getting started. As Reagan said, "You ain't seen nothing yet!".
4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:28:47 AM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: The_Liberal Person
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posted on
02/13/2005 5:30:11 AM PST
by
PGalt
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