THEY FOUND THE PERSON WHO GAVE KERRY HIS OTHER THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE!! (Swiftboat Vets)

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[wvromania]

Navy chief on Swiftvets.com is saying they FOUND IT!!

[bjmorris]

So would this less than honorable discharge also have ended his obligation to the Navy prior to when it was supposed to end?

[elizabetty]

Folks.....Chief has proven to be very reliable and not a liar.

Somebody please post a way we can donate some funds to the Chief. He has laid out a lot of money, sweat and time on this.

[CaptainVictory]

I don't know anything about how this works, But I had a friend who got in the Navy and his wife cheated on him with another sailor. When he got home he beat the hell out of the guy. He received an "other than Honorable discharge" but was able to have it changed to honorable after 5 years. He said it was no big deal and that they will change it to honorable after a certain amount of time as punishment and that it was his belief that anyone who receives Other than Honorable can get it changed. The Less than honorable and dis-honorable are the only ones permanent. In fact, he re-enlisted and is still in the Navy---But this could be wrong, I have no first hand knowledge

The character of any discharge can theoretically be upgraded by an appeal to the appropriate board of military corrections. But by no means is it automatic.

Your friend's situation could have had any number of scenarios. In Kerry's situation, I guarantee he was not court-martialed or we would know about it already -- with very rare exceptions, they are public proceedings. If this latest rumor is true, then it means Kerry got an administrative discharge that got updated by the greatest president this nation has ever known (vvvvommmmmmmit), Jimmy "the Georgia Joke" Carter.

[PISANO]

I found it .......thanks....my original post listing the types of discharges had UNDESIREABLE as one type........that is no longer in existence but has been renamed to Other than Honorable. My age is showing.

[shield]

bmp and ping ;o)

[finnigan2]

"The chief got through to Zell Miller. They are floored.... "

- You don't suppose that, "the chief" is the nom de plume for Hitlery do you? (Gotta stop being paranoid - but I've always believed she wouldn't sit still for a Kerry win.)

[dep]

guessing: John Warner

more likely lehmann.

[CedarDave]

We can deal with Kerry about VN after he loses the election.

And I, for one, want to deal with him. He is/was a despicable representative for an American military man and want him exposed, if only in history, for what he did.

[snopercod]

If it was stated anywhere that "he gave aid and comfort to the enemy," the man is simply ineligible to be President, and must be removed from the ballot, even if after the fact.

[stylin19a]

you are probably right.

Here's the likely suspects during the era....
Though could be ANY Sec. Navy Chief is talking about....

John H. Chafee...........31 Jan 1969 - 4 May 1972
John W. Warner...........4 May 1972 - 8 Apr 1974
J. William Middendorf....8 Apr 1974 - 20 Jan 1977
W. Graham Claytor, Jr...14 Feb 1977 - 24 Aug 1979
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Here's others...some are RIP

Edward Hidalgo...........24 Oct 1979 - 20 Jan 1981
John Lehman..............5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987
James H. Webb........... 1 May 1987 - 23 Feb 1988
William L. Ball......... 28 Mar 1988 - 15 May 1989
Henry L. Garrett III.....15 May 1989 - 26 Jun 1992
Daniel Howard (Acting)...26 Jun 1992 - 7 July 1992
Sean O'Keefe.............2 Oct 1992 - 20 Jan 1993
ADM Frank B. Kelso, II (Acting).. 2 Jan 1993 - 21 Jul 1993
John H. Dalton...........22 Jul 1993 - 16 Nov 1998
Richard Danzig...........16 Nov 1998 - 20 Jan 2001
Robert B. Pirie, Jr.(acting)....20 Jan 2001 - 24 May 2001
Gordon R. England.........24 May 2001 to present

[DJ Taylor]

At this point in the election, I don’t think Kerry’s discharge would make any difference with the voters. Everyone who thinks Kerry’s conduct after the Vietnam War is important has already made up their mind about who they are going to vote for.

The sad thing about it is that for the Democrat party, Kerry’s discharge from the Navy is not at all important. Please remember that the Democrat party is nothing but a loose coalition of Godless communists, socialists, criminals, perverts, race-baiters, parasites, opportunists, and the feeble minded, and as such, an Honorable Discharge from the U.S. Navy just has no meaning to them.

[r9etb]

;-)

[The G Man]

"I made my bones when you were datin' cheerleaders."

(Member since June 11, 1998) :>)

[txroadkill]

"It must be one of these two guys:
- John H. Chafee January 31, 1969 - May 4, 1972
=John W. Warner May 4, 1972 - April 8, 1974 "
wasn't the second guy married to Liz Taylor?
(Not that this is relevant --- I'll shut up now)

[BadAndy]

This is NOT helpful. Any stories like this near the end of the campaign will be percived as a dirty trick and will backfire. We appear to be ahead in the polls, don't do anything stupid!

[Richard Kimball]

Very true. However, it does not carry the stigma of a general or any other than honorable. One of the guys I worked with had a general under honorable, and although he was difficult to pen down on the circumstances, I think he got wind of his wife cheating on him and went over the hill to chase her down. They bounced him, but didn't want to ruin his life, so they went general under honorable.

There are a range of discharges, and even if someone is a problem, there are options to get them out without stigmatizing them for life. An other than honorable, though, means the guy who discharged Kerry wanted to leave a mark. That's assuming, of course, this information is accurate.

[Cyber Ninja]

DUmmies plant stuff like this to get us going.

Still, hope it is true.

wvromania <<< You are kind of new here aren't you?

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

CB^))

[Shermy]

You can see an example here from his own website:

John Kerry's After-Action Combat Reports

Note the Records for December and January weren't released. These would impact his Christmas in Cambodia story and the Sampan story.

Even more complicated, months ago he had some reports from earlier Feb and late January pulled off because they conflicted with something in Brinkley's book. Relatively minor compared to the big whoppers he told, though.

[jambooti]

won't make a lick of difference.