Posted on 10/03/2004 3:07:34 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Just announced on CNN.
This was my take- the President figured out from Lehrer's early questions -as did I - that this was not a debate... it was:
a. for GWB, an inqisition
b. for JF-in'K, an advertisement.
Kerry needed no cheat sheets because his handlers wrote the questions (so to speak).
Stil trying to defend your troll position?
Either way Clinton LOST his first debate. Bush LOST his first debate with Gore. Bush 1 LOST his first debate with Dukakis. Reagan LOST his first debate with Mondale.
..... Flash cannot be sustained, substance persists.
DU is a far-left board website for moveon.org freaks.
The Swifites and the convention set Bush up so beautifully. It was in the bag. Grrrrrrr. But Bush has a way of coming back.
Clearly the realistic target number of EVs is closer to 300 than it is to 271, which shows your problems in judgment.
How about a friendly wager? Bush's final EV tally will be closer to 325 than it will be to 271?
People are criticizing you because you're wrong. Facing reality isn't seeing one bad debate and proclaiming the whole election is over. By many accounts Bush LOST all three debates with Al Gore, but people were turned off by Gore's attitude. This time, Bush lost the first debate, but Kerry has provided some huge whoppers about his positions.
Don;t strut too soon, my friend--your points haven't been proven.
I remeber people said Gore lost the townhall debate by his demeanor, the space invasion. But I remember a Bush who took on question at random and performed well. Plus alot of Bush campaign rallies have been townhall formats and he has been training for them since day one.
There is no doubt Kerry either had the questions or had been given information regarding the questions. Problem is, we are the only ones who seem to know this. Or care.
I was a wreck watching the debate. There where times when I really thought Bush was going to walk off the stage. I really wish I knew exactly what transpired that ticked him off so bad. There is no end to the dirty trickery these guys can come up with so you can only imagine.
I haven't seen or heard anything of it yet.
Kerry pulled out a cheat sheet. Lay you odds 10-1 that is what set G.W. off, and we have the cheat caught on tape.
It is on Gallup's website now. I am really surprised. It is discouraging but on the bright side, it is better to be tied than to be where Bush was for much of the year: behind!
"Conventional wisdom" said Bush would do well in the first debate, and CV was wrong. Pundits (like the often wrong Dick Morris) say domestic issues are kerry's territory. They may well be wrong again and Bush will surprise us with a stronger performance in the remaining debates. Expectations must be pretty low for him now.
I think after 9/11 the President proved his ability to lead. Remember his 90% approval ratings! I don't think people have forgotten.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
It was posted here.
How about a friendly wager? Bush's final EV tally will be closer to 325 than it will be to 271?
I think your judgment is ompaired so we are even and lets leave it there. I WILL NOT post to you again!
while mathematically youre right, it is not realistic to think that would happen. States tend to move together. When one candidate improves his national standing he has improved his state standing by at least 5 points in battleground and swing states. In very partisian states his standing will change by less.
In 1968 a 50-50 two party tie produced a 100 EV vote margin for Nixon but I wouldnt expect it this time.
no a 50-50 tie going into the elction baring any massive fraud wil lgive Bush 278-290 EVs. PA will not be more GOP than the nation as a whole, whcih is what youre saying will happen. PA will be 2-4 points more DEM. For Bush to in PA he'll have to get 53% of the two party vote.
"problem is there are tow more and that debate was suppose to be Bush strong point."
Ah, another fine product of Evenly Woodhead's speed reading, capitalization and spelling courses.
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