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McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit
Boston Globe ^ | 5 August 2004 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 08/05/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by demlosers

Edited on 08/05/2004 8:28:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service ''dishonest and dishonorable'' and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.

''It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me,'' McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, referring to his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.


(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: ads; dishonest; dishonorable; getatigercage; mccain; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans
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To: itsallover

"No" we can't have a poll, or "no" you don't think the WH should condemn the ads?


341 posted on 08/05/2004 11:17:19 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Badeye
"...now reporting the Whitehouse is glad the Kerry Campaign understands what its like to be attacked in this manner"

FOFLOL!

342 posted on 08/05/2004 11:26:12 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb

""...now reporting the Whitehouse is glad the Kerry Campaign understands what its like to be attacked in this manner"

"FOFLOL!"

Yep....(grin)

Nice to have Karen Hughes back at the Whitehouse, isn't it?


343 posted on 08/05/2004 11:28:52 AM PDT by Badeye ("You haven't posted anything to even remotely cause me to reconsider this position.")
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To: demlosers

Okay .. all you McCainiacs .. here's your hero!


344 posted on 08/05/2004 11:35:44 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: demlosers

Bump for later.


345 posted on 08/05/2004 11:46:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: demlosers
Has he condemned the shadow DNC ads, like MoveOn, and Al Franken's radio show?
346 posted on 08/05/2004 11:49:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: demlosers

Sen. McCain should understand that this is just both sides coming out. First we heard Skerry side and now we hear the other side. Thats all. I think Kerry can defend himself though without our help, I mean after all he's got that one Green Beret on his side who say Kerry saved his life.

I would like to see the GOP focus more on what Kerry did after he came back against our troops and for the enemy in America, than what he did for our troops and against the enemy in Nam.


347 posted on 08/05/2004 11:54:16 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: ValerieUSA
'The president thought he got rid of this unregulated soft money when he signed the bipartisan campaign finance reform into law,'' McClellan said. A chief sponsor of that bill, which Bush initially opposed, was McCain.
In the technical jargon of political science, that's what's known as a "bitch slap".
In 2000, Bush's supporters sponsored a rumor campaign against McCain in the South Carolina primary... McCain said that's all in the past to him, but he's speaking out against the anti-Kerry ad because ''it reopens all the old wounds of the Vietnam War, which I spent the last 35 years trying to heal.''
Hmm. I wonder how many wounds were inflicted on veterans of Vietnam who returned to find John "Silver Spoon" Kerry aiding and abetting all those yelling about baby killers. McCain on some sort of committee to tend those wounds?
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

348 posted on 08/05/2004 11:54:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: demlosers
March 18, 2004

McCain won't join in GOP criticism of Kerry

Mike Sunnucks -- The Business Journal

Arizona Sen. John McCain Thursday said he would not join in Republican criticisms of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. …

McCain said he is pleased to co-chair President George W. Bush's Arizona re-election effort with fellow GOP Sen. Jon Kyl but he won't attack Kerry.

"John Kerry is a friend of mine therefore I don't wish to criticize him," McCain told reporters at the Arizona State Capitol....

I guess McCain’s value system places friendship ahead of truth and national security.

Bush people should also take note that it's obvious McCain does not consider W a friend, since he has no problem criticizing him any chance he gets.

349 posted on 08/05/2004 12:00:27 PM PDT by SheRebel
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To: SunkenCiv
Rush is saying two law firms, one for the Kerry campaign and one for the DNC sent letters to two TV stations saying the swift boat vets are FRAUDS and the things they say are "libelous". Basically threatening to sue if the stations run the ads.
350 posted on 08/05/2004 12:03:15 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: SunkenCiv
"McCain said that's all in the past to him, but he's speaking out against the anti-Kerry ad because 'it reopens all the old wounds of the Vietnam War, which I spent the last 35 years trying to heal.' "

McStain is such a typical leftist. Kerry's Vietnam campaign opened wounds first. The wounded are trying to fight back by telling what they know. NOW McCain leads the "why can't we all just put it behind" us campaign.

351 posted on 08/05/2004 12:07:28 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: All

Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2004 12:35 p.m. EST
McCain: Hanoi Hilton Guards Taunted POWs With Kerry's Testimony

These days, former Vietnam War POW Sen. John McCain has nothing but praise for his fellow Vietnam veteran Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats' current presidential front-runner.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/17/124410.shtml McCain is mouthing the Dem talking points when he says that "none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded." Technically true, but it ignores the reality that they were serving together within yards of one another. Kerry was not commanding a destroyer or aircraft carrier. He was operating a small boat with a crew of 6 including himself. The boats operated together with other boats, not independently. As I said on another thread, it is like the quarterback saying he did not serve with the middle linebacker. They may be on different units, but they are on the same team.


From the Boston Globe online...3/27/2004:

"We don't have a broken government, we have a broke value system." John Kerry

"...he talks about "Two Americas"....Kerry is suitably shocked when he talks about "this stunning reality" of haves and have-nots in America in 2004."

"...He is outraged over a family that can't take showers or make lemonade because of a contaminated water suppy. He is worried about 9 million latchkey children,

Kerry wants to raise income taxes on "the rich", namely those who make more than $200,000 a year, to address these and other problems.
Be that as it may:

From the Washington Times:

The Heinz-Kerrys have at least five homes and vacation getaways worth over $33 million dollars.

Boston - five story, 12-room Louisburg Square home. The Square has a gated private park in the center for residents only, and guaranteed free private parking in a city where the mayor can't find a spot for his car.

Nantucket - three story, five bedroom waterfront home with a view uncluttered by the windmill farm proposed for the shallows off the coast. (It would provide power for all the offshore islands and 3/4 of the energy needs of Cape Cod). But Kerry, Kennedy and Cronkite, among others, oppose the alternative energy wind farm because of "environmental" reasons, although the issue probably has more to do with spoiling the offshore view.

Washington D.C. - 23 room house in Georgetown with art and antique collection. Kerry can camp out here next time he decides to protest at Nixon's house.

Ketchum Idaho - built from an English barn dating from 1485. The Kerrys had a river diverted here to provide irrigation for their yard, and the Idaho tax payers picked up the bill.
Fox Chapel, PA. nine room Colonial on nearly 90 acres of land, also filled with art and antique collections.

http://cache.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/images/day6/01b.jpg


352 posted on 08/05/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

Didn't meen to post the one above LOL! Check this out........ In his 2002 book, "Man of the People: The Life of John McCain," Alexander says that the two Vietnam vets finally reconciled in the early 1990s after having "a long - and at times emotional - conversation about Vietnam" during a mutual trip to Kuwait.

Later, Kerry sought to minimize the rift, telling Alexander: "Our differences occurred when we were kids, or at least close to being kids. It was a long time ago, and we both came back and realized that there were a lot of difficulties in the prosecution of that war."

NewsMax gratefully acknowledges the help of U.S. Veteran Dispatch editor Ted Sampley for supplying McCain's revealing 1973 account in U.S. News.


353 posted on 08/05/2004 12:27:03 PM PDT by anglian
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To: demlosers

Hey McInsane... the truth hurts doesn't it? If Kerry's accusers are liars that will become evident in due course. On the other hand if what they say IS true, I'd want to know about that before I go into the voting booth. Negative advertising is feared only by politicians who don't want the public to know something about them they don't want the public to know. And in case you haven't heard, your statutory rape of the Constitution did NOT yet annul free speech in this country. F*ck off.


354 posted on 08/05/2004 12:44:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: IrishGOP
How does McCain know that it's dishonest? Did he serve with Kerry?

No, he didn't serve with Kerry. But they're in the same club.
355 posted on 08/05/2004 12:45:54 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: All

With apologies if so noted by another poster - In wondering why McCain would suddenly turn on the Swiftboat vets, I thought I remembered that it was McCain who helped Kerry derail the Vietnam Human rights Bill, HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote. If I am right on this, it would seem they have some pro-Vietnam kinship. Does anyone else find this curious?


356 posted on 08/05/2004 12:56:53 PM PDT by pt17
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To: YaYa123

Rush said that it wasn't the same firm that produced the anti-McCain ads, that this firm had pulled out of the anti-McCain ads and the job was taken over by someone else. McCain better get his facts straight.

We own a home in Arizona, so I e-mailed him, using that address.


357 posted on 08/05/2004 1:19:08 PM PDT by Eva
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To: demlosers

Hey McPAin, SHOVE IT~~~~~~~~


358 posted on 08/05/2004 1:21:54 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (GWB all the way!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2banana

Do you remember when McCain was voting against the US going back into NV to search for the missing POW's and KIAs. I sure do.

Safe in his political office he refused help to other servicemen. The bastard is scum!


359 posted on 08/05/2004 1:24:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: bray
"We weren't there but they were and if they are telling the truth deserve the chance to speak it."

I agree with you wholeheartedly.  If John Kerry, while serving in Viet Nam, was half a bad as what is being alleged, there would exist permanent letters in his military file.  There are many reasons I wouldn't vote for John Kerry.  Accusations without any supporting documentation is not one of the reasons.  If any disciplinary actions ever had to be taken against John Kerry, even a letter, they are documented, would remain in his permanent file, and they should be revealed.

BTW, as a veteran, I stepped on a lot of toes while serving.  I don't know of anyone that didn't from time to time.

360 posted on 08/05/2004 2:06:19 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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