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The Poop On Ancient Man
The Globe And Mail ^ | 6-19-2004 | Jacob Berkowitz

Posted on 07/02/2004 7:44:11 PM PDT by blam

Edited on 07/02/2004 8:45:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Hendrik Poinar is holding a small plastic vial containing some of the oldest DNA ever extracted from human remains. The snips of genetic material are from a native American who made his home 8,000 years ago in a massive cliff-side rock shelter in southwestern Texas.


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KEYWORDS: ancient; anthropology; archaeology; archeology; economic; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; man; poop
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To: monkeyman81
"Did a group of thirteenth-century Japanese journey to the American Southwest, there to merge with the people, language, and religion of the Zuni tribe?"

BTW, makes me wonder how their (Zuni) DNA compares with the Ainu of Japan.

41 posted on 07/03/2004 9:15:24 AM PDT by blam
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To: A.J.Armitage
would things like biting the inside of your lips or sucking the blood from a wound to prevent infection put human (your own) protein in your stool?

Yes, and so would sniffing back a nosebleed, or internal bleeding from various parasites. However, the researchers found human MUSCLE protein in the coprolites -- which can only be from cannibalism.

42 posted on 07/03/2004 10:41:53 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: broadsword
Ketosis is what the Atkins dies does for you. You lose weight because of poor health.

Gee, then why did my chronic fatigue disappear, why did my skin rashes improve, why did I run faster and sleep better and work harder? BTW, ketosis is the NORMAL state of the human body -- reliable, regular meals with enough starch to keep us out of ketosis are a civilized innovation.

You could do the same with a stiff combination of whiskey, tobacco and influenza.

If that were true, America would not have a weight problem.

In fact, that combination might also bring on the same irritability, mood swings, memory loss and fanaticism.

That's only a short term phenomenon. Once the body fully adapts, you'll feel better than ever.

43 posted on 07/03/2004 10:46:56 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Lady Jag

NO!


44 posted on 07/03/2004 11:07:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Scatologist?


45 posted on 07/03/2004 11:59:47 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/])
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To: Lady Jag
Is that like a scatman?
46 posted on 07/03/2004 12:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: broadsword
My uncle, on the other hand, is an Atkins religious fanatic. But since he has gone on it, he has turned into a moody, fanatical, irritible nut. He scares me now and has blown up with so many irrational accusations against those who love him

I gave this some thought over the last 2 days. Two ideas came to mind:

(1) Perhaps your uncle, like so many others, diligently followed the PC weightloss methods (low-cal, low-fat, aerobics, etc) and never succeeded. Then (again, like so many others), he tried the "eeeeeeevil" Atkins diet, the one that all the "right" people abominate, and voila, it worked! Yet, when he's finally found something that works, everyone turns against him. That, coupled with the feeling that the government, the medical profession, the health food/fitness advocates, and just about everyone else has been lying to him for 30 years, can make a man just a bit "moody", "fanatical", and "irritable". The fact that he has someone in the family with a "Master in Dietetics" who is just as biochemically wrong as everyone else, only added fuel to the fire.

Have you tried just laying off of the Atkins subject and congratulating him on his weight loss? He just might be a little less " "moody", "fanatical", and "irritable" if everyone would quit persecuting him.

But perhaps I'm projecting, as that is sort of how I felt. Having a Ph.D. in chemistry, however, I was better able to fend off people's quasi-scientific attacks but I still faced a lot of social scorn and a lot of people who just kept on preaching my doom and gloom to me no matter how many times I gently, patiently explained to them that they (and the government, and a million doctors, etc) were simply biochemically wrong. All that nagging gets really old, sometimes. At one point I got so sick of explaining myself (futilely) that I did lash out with something to the effect of, "I DON'T CARE IF IT SHORTENS MY LIFE, I'D RATHER HAVE A LEAN, ACTIVE, HAPPY AND SHORT LIFE THAN A LONG MISERABLE FAT ONE!!!"

(2) The second thought I had, was "serotonin". For some people the adjustment to high-fat/low carb may be difficult NOT because of any fuel shortage in the brain, but because low carb means lower serotonin levels, at least temporarily. If that's the case, and it doesn't resolve, then an alternative to Atkins might be Dr. Mauro DiPasquale's "Anabolic Diet" (no, there are no drugs involved, it's a diet originally designed for bodybuilders.)

The basic difference is, you're on essentially an Atkins induction phase for 5-6 days, then on free carb intake for 1-2. For me, this allowed me to eat freely on the weekends, for dating, etc, and for your uncle it might just give him the serotonin boost he needs to tolerate low-carbing the rest of the week. (I lost a lot of weight on that, with no increase in running mileage. And running got easier,even before the weight started to drop.)

47 posted on 07/05/2004 2:50:53 PM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Rytwyng

Te wierd thing is that he wasn't fat at all. He was in great shape. He just got on Atkins to help his fat wife (reeeeealy fat).

I know it's an unhealthy and innatural thing to do to yourself, but I have not given him a hard time about it. Not at all. Really, nobody does. The guy was, as far back as I cqn remember, a stable and decent guy. Now, he is such an unhappy, wierd and unstable guy. Bitchy and moody. Fanatical about his Atkins god, which he didn't even need.

I cannot explain it, but I know that low carb regimens affect the brain like that. Now I avoid him, which is easy, because he avoids all us foolish, carless, carb-eating-devils.


48 posted on 07/05/2004 6:22:27 PM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts our national defense.)
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To: Rytwyng
If that were true, America would not have a weight problem.

America has a weight problem for a combination of two rampant reasons: SLOTH and GLUTTONY. Bad combo.
49 posted on 07/05/2004 6:24:15 PM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts our national defense.)
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To: broadsword
Now THAT is REALLY weird. Why would a guy go on a diet when he didn't need to?

I do have to challenge the "unhealty" and "unnatural" claim though. Reliable anthropological records indicate that whole ethnic groups lived that way for centuries. Atkins is VERY natural, at least for some of us.

50 posted on 07/05/2004 7:47:49 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: broadsword
Ketosis is what the Atkins dies does for you. You lose weight because of poor health.
Oh, my goodness. What on earth caused you to believe such nonsense? I'm not going to say that Atkins is the ideal way of eating -- note that I didn't say diet -- for everybody but I'm willing to say that 80% or more Americans would benefit by drastically lowering the amount of carbs in their diets. It's not just that it's good for weight loss, but it increases energy and normalizes amounts of glucose and cholesterols.

51 posted on 07/29/2004 11:22:14 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: broadsword
I cannot explain it, but I know that low carb regimens affect the brain like that.
I agree that it's not perfect for every single person walking the planet. Some people can't tolerate aspirin but it doesn't mean that aspirin is bad for everybody.

52 posted on 07/29/2004 11:25:30 AM PDT by DallasMike
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