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Breaking: John Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists
Vietnam Veterans for the Truth via WinterSoldier.com ^ | May 31, 2004 | Interesting Times

Posted on 05/31/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times

May 31, 2004 -- **BREAKING** Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy (May 27 below). See Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists in Special Features for the complete story.

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To: IThinkYouShould2
The point here is that the Vietnamese communists themselves credit Kerry with having helped them win the war -- a war which was by no means "unwinnable". The bad guys didn't take over until two years after we left.
341 posted on 06/01/2004 6:56:25 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

The Vietnam War may have been winnable but only at a great cost in American and Vietnamese lives. These lives greatly outweigh what the fruits of victory would have been, as the Domino Theory proved wrong.

Attacking Kerry for being credited by the Vietnamese for helping them win the war is just like attacking George W. Bush for creating terrorism through his policies in the Middle East. While they certainly do not credit Bush personally, some credit his policies for causing angry young people to take arms up against America. Kerry is as much for communism as Bush is for terrorism. I am not saying that Kerry's anti-war demonstrations and Bush's anti-terror campaign are comparable overall, only the fact that they had possible unintended consequences, North Vietnam's faster sweep of South Vietnam and greater recruiting for terorist organizations respectively. Do not read the point of my argument as that we should blame Bush for terrorism, but take it as that Kerry can be blamed as much for North Vietnam's victory as the President could be held for increasing terrorist recruits.


342 posted on 06/01/2004 7:31:55 PM PDT by IThinkYouShould2
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk,Here's a bump.


343 posted on 06/01/2004 7:40:02 PM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: SheLion

Hannity only mentioned it (as far as I know) on his radio show. He said he's going to verify the photo before showing it on TV.


344 posted on 06/01/2004 7:45:35 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: SheLion

Photo & story here:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545


345 posted on 06/01/2004 7:46:51 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
didn't hear what Sean said, but based on your note there, I can't blame him, BUT ..... he really should shut up already about that Fonda/Kerry pic. It was intended as a humor pic and the media got suckered, but he should tone it down, imho. We're supposed to be on the SAME side, right? ..... I don't mean to step on toes here at all. I like Hannity. I wanna KEEP likin' him! LOL! :^D

Hannity mentioned the two pictures of Kerry/Fonda the authentic one of Kerry sitting behind Fonda and the 'created' one of them both on the same stage.

He said that he was concerned about promoting the photo and then later finding out it was a 'digital creation'.

He said he just wanted to be sure this photo of Kerry & the North Vietnamese was 'authentic' before showing it on his TV show.

Now that WND has picked up the story...I wish Hannity would invite the Veterans for the Truth about Kerry to come on his TV show and tell the whole story of the photo.

346 posted on 06/01/2004 7:53:32 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: SheLion
"John Kerry, the War Protestor" , Hero in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War" - Can we shorten that for a bumper sticker?

JUDAS KERRY for PRESIDENT - of Hanoi

or

Kerry's First Flip Flop = Vietnam

347 posted on 06/01/2004 9:03:55 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Interesting Times

Why he and Jane Fonda didn't swing from the end of a rope, I'll never understand. Treasonous, traitorous trash. One law for the rich and influential...


348 posted on 06/01/2004 9:06:34 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: IThinkYouShould2
The Vietnam War may have been winnable but only at a great cost in American and Vietnamese lives. These lives greatly outweigh what the fruits of victory would have been, as the Domino Theory proved wrong.

That is precisely false.

The Domino Theory proved true when communists slaughtered some two million people in Cambodia and Laos. They also killed tens of thousands of South Vietnamese, at least one hundred thousand died trying to escape, 1-2 million fled the country, and millions more were imprisoned in "re-education" camps.

The greatest human cost by far came after America abandoned its South Vietnamese allies.

349 posted on 06/01/2004 9:08:09 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: IThinkYouShould2
He only protested against the war b/c it was going in the wrong direction and the communists would have won anyways b/c of the impossibility of winning in such a harsh environment against the Viet Cong.

Thanks for the heads up. I've heard he "protested", aka lied about our troops, on moral grounds. Your explanation, that he's an opportunist, makes more sense. After all, if JFK thought America was going to lose, it makes sense to change sides. Doesn't it? Patriotism, Duty they only go so far, just ask General Arnold.

350 posted on 06/01/2004 9:10:45 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the links. I have to think this would be relatively easy to confirm. The museum's a tourist attraction, and American's have been going there for years. Hopefully other pics will turn up.


351 posted on 06/01/2004 9:13:37 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bttt


352 posted on 06/02/2004 2:58:31 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: Interesting Times; IThinkYouShould2

You're exactly right. But in addition to the human cost, the whole SE Asia region has been lost economically to the world and to themselves since we left there. The lives given there in an attempt to help them gain freedom were very important. It is very unfortunate that we lacked the courage and leadership, especially in the media, to see that battle through.
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353 posted on 06/02/2004 7:16:22 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: IThinkYouShould2
...b/c of the impossibility of winning in such a harsh environment against the Viet Cong. Even without the protests by those such as Kerry, the communists would have succeeded eventually ...

Wait a minute here, hombre! It sounds like you have precisely zero understanding of VietNam. For years, we just sat over there twiddling our thumbs as a military, instead of really taking the action into the North. If we had decided that we were going to WIN that war, we could have done so within a few months or a year at worst. VietNam was a failure of will, not an inability of the military to perform "in a harsh environment".

354 posted on 06/02/2004 7:25:02 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: IThinkYouShould2
You wrote:

"Kerry is not a communist. He only protested against the war b/c it was going in the wrong direction and the communists would have won anyways b/c of the impossibility of winning in such a harsh environment against the Viet Cong. Even without the protests by those such as Kerry, the communists would have succeeded eventually and many more Americans would have died from it as troops would have remained longer. "

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You've got alot to try and figure out......

Do you realize exactly what Kerry said back then? Based on his own words...he wasn't protesting because of what you presume....

Most students of the Vietnam War...would loudly disagree with your "impossibility" assessment...What is more likely...is that guys like Kerry, made winning the war an "impossibility"...by running a political propaganda campaign.

Your last line is laughable.....I guess you can "see" the future, eh?

FWIW-

355 posted on 06/02/2004 7:36:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Sick Slick's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.............)
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To: SJackson
I have to think this would be relatively easy to confirm. The museum's a tourist attraction, and American's have been going there for years. Hopefully other pics will turn up.

I'm informed that taking photographs in the museum is not allowed, and that a certain degree of stealth was required to obtain this image...

356 posted on 06/02/2004 7:38:17 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
I'm informed that taking photographs in the museum is not allowed, and that a certain degree of stealth was required to obtain this image...

You're right, maybe not many pics, but if it's been up for awhile, I'd assume enough American's have seen it that it could be confirmed, even though VN isn't exactly an American tourist hotspot. Hopefully they'll turn up.

357 posted on 06/02/2004 7:42:28 AM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson
Yes, I think confirming it is certainly doable, but it may take Fox News a day or two to make sure.

Nobody involved in this story at our end has any problem with that.

358 posted on 06/02/2004 7:51:51 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: JulieRNR21
Now that WND has picked up the story...I wish Hannity would invite the Veterans for the Truth about Kerry to come on his TV show and tell the whole story of the photo.

Do it, Sean !! :^D


359 posted on 06/02/2004 7:58:27 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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360 posted on 06/02/2004 9:36:35 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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