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U.S. journalist wants war to failEditors believe it would ensure 'evil' Bush ousted
Worldnet Daily ^ | May 15, 2004 | WND

Posted on 05/14/2004 11:24:22 PM PDT by LifeTrek

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A British reporter says a U.S. journalist in Baghdad told him she wants to see more Iraqis die so President Bush will be thrown out of office in November.

Toby Harnden, Middle East correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph, said he engaged in the conversation while taking a break by the pool at the Al-Hamra Hotel in the Iraqi capital.

In an opinion piece for the Spectator magazine of Britain, Harnden said at poolside he "was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials."

The American journalist told Harnden she had been disturbed by his argument that Iraqis were better off now than under Saddam Hussein.

Harnden said he heard from her the usual "script" from antiwar activists, "no WMD, no 'imminent threat' (though the point was to deal with Saddam before such a threat could emerge), a diversion from the hunt for bin Laden, enraging the Arab world, etc."

But the American then came to her point, Hernden said.

"Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would fail but she considered it essential that it did so because this would ensure that the 'evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running her country.

"Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. 'Lots of us talk about how awful it would be if this worked out.'"

"Startled by her candor," said Herndon, "I asked whether thousands more dead Iraqis would be a good thing."

The British journalist said, "She nodded and mumbled something about Bush needing to go."

He then suggest to her that by this logic another Sept. 11 attack, on about Sept. 11, would be perfect for pushing up John Kerry's poll numbers.

"Well, that's different — that would be Americans," she said, haltingly, according to Harnden. "I guess I'm a bit of an isolationist."

In his column, Harnden then commented on the "moral degeneracy of these sentiments," concluding with:

"Whatever we thought about the war before it was launched, it is imperative that the forces of Arab nationalism and Islamism that now threaten to destroy Iraq are defeated. If America fails in Iraq it will be all of us in the West, not just Bush, who will suffer. But those who would be most in peril, of course, would be the Iraqis, who deserve better than to have their country treated as an electoral playground by the American Left or Right. To wish otherwise is as sick as the grins on the faces of the Abu Ghraib torturers."


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To: ladyinred
" Could not believe my ears Travis, that an American citizen could say such a thing. This isn't politics anymore."

Don't get too upset.The world is full of sicko's of the type who regularly phone or write taunting letters to grieving parents after their child has been kidnapped or murdered. Shrug them off as mentally ill- which is what they are.
101 posted on 05/15/2004 8:30:50 AM PDT by finnigan2 (My more advanced)
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To: blanknoone

To find the likely female correspondent from this story, it can be inferred that "she", being notable and respected, must be at least in her thirty or forties. It should be possible to make a short list of a half dozen or so east coast magazines that cover international events, have the resources to send a journalist overseas and have a reputation as being big left wingers. Visiting each of their web sites and searching for recent Baghdad stories from female staff members it should be possible to narrow the list to two or three likely candidates. I'm open to suggestion on then how to narrow the list down to one name, but it's a start.









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102 posted on 05/15/2004 8:46:29 AM PDT by finnigan2 (My more advanced)
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To: risk

I agree. They'll start it. But the world has not yet seen the wrath of 80 million armed Americans.


103 posted on 05/15/2004 8:49:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TheLurkerX

We SHOULD find out who it was, and freep her right into unemployment.


104 posted on 05/15/2004 8:50:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos; Southack; risk; Texasforever

Sure sounds like Ann Garrels. Can we pin down her movements to fix her in place and time? That intersection would be close enough to begin a freep campaign. Force her to deny it (or no) on the record. Then prove she's a liar, a traitoress, or both.


105 posted on 05/15/2004 8:54:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: jennyp; Grampa Dave
It will be attacked by al Qaida, helped in some way by a leftist group behind the scenes.

YES! I agree 100%. Where will we find the ANSWER to the puzzle?

106 posted on 05/15/2004 8:56:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
Hearsay and unnamed sources....don't we usually dismiss these things at FR?

Are you serious? FR is a virtual real-time think tank. This is where we kick around ideas and discover new leads. We are only in the first phases of an FR investigation.

107 posted on 05/15/2004 8:57:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Skooz

PERFECT quote by Lincoln, as true today as then.


108 posted on 05/15/2004 8:58:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: hobson

That's correct.


109 posted on 05/15/2004 8:59:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mulder
DW1 = Dirty War One.

I don't see another CW2, it will be far too messy. There is no 'north south' type split. Cities will be battlegrounds. Argentina 1970s, Northern Ireland 1970s, Bosnia 1990s are more likely. Hence DW1.

110 posted on 05/15/2004 9:01:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wildbill; Squantos; Southack
It's typical for a reporter with this type of story to "turn" some detail, to provide anonymity for a source who might otherwise be too easily outed.

In this case, a typical "detail turn" would be from radio reporter to magazine reporter.

I think the event happened, but it was not necessarily a magazine reporter.

111 posted on 05/15/2004 9:04:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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bump


112 posted on 05/15/2004 9:04:24 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: finnigan2

See 111.


113 posted on 05/15/2004 9:05:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

The Brit should have IDENTIFIED the bitch...

It's time America gets to know the whores and pimps of Journalism that have been feeding them their bias as part of the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHY of the "news"....


The line between free speech and treason or sedition....is unpainted for the Leftists --- and CLEARLY referenced for those of us on the RIGHT side of the issues...

Semper Fi


114 posted on 05/15/2004 9:09:48 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Travis McGee

In order for a DW1 we need the military to step up the plate, take the initiative and govern the nation in the manner it sees best.

I don't mind a "national regeneration" movement along the lines of Franco's Spain or Argentina in the 1970s. The libertarian ideal is so bankrupt and exhausted that I would accept several years of a Franco-style solution to our ideological conflicts.


115 posted on 05/15/2004 9:15:15 AM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Travis McGee

I'll volunteer our burn pit here on the ranch; 12 feet deep and full of trash.


116 posted on 05/15/2004 9:16:24 AM PDT by OregonRancher
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To: Travis McGee

I can't place her there during the time frame but her tude is clear about her country..................she seems to be very willing to pay lip service to all our enemies.

http://www.theroughwoodsman.com/archives/001008.html

http://www.aim.org/aim_report/A110_0_4_0_C/

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/003226.html


Stay Safe !


117 posted on 05/15/2004 9:20:02 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ladyinred; Travis McGee; Southack; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; MJY1288; MeekOneGOP; Liz

"I heard this too, it was incredible, and I actually got sick to my stomach! Savage handled him so well, better than he usually does. Could not believe my ears Travis, that an American citizen could say such a thing. This isn't politics anymore."

Welcome to the reality of Liberalism in America. Lunatic Liberals who are 50 and over, have hated America for about 3 decades. Their entire core is based on hating America, conservatives, Christians, Jews who are faithful to their religion and our military. al Querry is a prime example. He rode his hate America Treason to the senate and now is their presidential candidate.

Since GW was sworn, their worse nightmares about him have been coming true. Each day/week/month their pet agendas have been harmed or neutered by our stealth president. They are losing funding for their agendas across the board. Probably a lot of that funding came from the Iraqi Oil for Food scam and their Uncle $oddomite. Who knows how much money Iran is throwing their way to avoid their regime change. Without funds their Hate America non profit groups will disappear like Air America is disappearing. When that happens, they will lose a lot of power.

4 more years of GW and enough senators to bust their dying hold in the Senate will be the end of the power they have had in Washington since WWII.

They are desperate and will do anything to defeat President Bush this November.


118 posted on 05/15/2004 9:23:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Wishing for an American military *defeat* in Iraq to defeat President Bush is treason!)
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To: LifeTrek
This is not at all surprising. To the Left, it's "the agenda uber alles". Although her willingness to sacrifice "non-americans" for the leftist cause was rather touching. How many people have been killed in the pasty 100 years in the interest of creating this Leftist "journalist's" utopia? Over 170 million so far? Massive ignorance, weapons-grade stupidity, and misplaced passion are the hallmarks of the Leftist fools.

BTW, did you know that, in mathematical expression, "the limit of an engineering major as his GPA approaches zero is a business major, and the limit of a business major as his GPA approaches zero is a journalism major".

119 posted on 05/15/2004 9:38:30 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: rdb3

Now you've got me curious. Do you think that Bush needs to go?


120 posted on 05/15/2004 9:39:19 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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