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Darwinism to Face Scrutiny in Ohio and Minnesota
family ^ | 02.26.04

Posted on 02/27/2004 5:55:40 PM PST by Coleus

State News

February 26, 2004

Darwinism to Face Scrutiny
by Sonja Swiatkiewicz, state issues analyst

Ohio and Minnesota have the opportunity to make a difference in how Darwinism is taught to schoolchildren.

Ohio made history in December 2002 when its state Board of Education approved changes to public school science standards requiring students to be tested on their understanding of evidence for and against Darwinism.

Just over a year later, Ohio again stands at a crossroads of sorts, while its school board seeks to establish a model curriculum to implement 2002's changes. Minnesota, likewise, has come to a place of decision — whether or not to follow in Ohio's footsteps in the teaching of Darwinism.

The Ohio school board voted 13-4 on Feb. 10 in a preliminary vote to accept "Set A" of the model science curriculum -- the curriculum that will be sent to each district to guide teachers in how the new science standards should be implemented in the classroom. "Set A" includes 42 individual lessons that deal with potentially "controversial" topics; nine of them (those slated for grade 10 life sciences) discuss evolutionary theory.

Only one of the 42, however, seeks to include the "critical analysis" of Darwinism that is now required to be taught — and that's where the rubber meets the road.

Fiercely protective pro-Darwinists are attempting to derail the new science standards before kids in the classroom ever reap the benefits of this dramatic change in policy. Critics have claimed that the "Critical Analysis of Evolution" lesson mandates the teaching of Intelligent Design.

In fact, the "Critical Analysis" lesson supports the new requirement that students be able to "describe how scientists continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory." Students will be taught that theories are tentative explanations that are subject to modification as continued experimentation demands; the differences between microevolution and macroevolution; and guided to examine the various lines of evidence for and against the theory of a common ancestry (macroevolution).

While the board had already indicated its support of "Set A" in its entirety, Darwinists are applying pressure to the board members to convince them to remove their support. A final, binding vote will be taken during the board's meeting March 8-9.

A few states away, Minnesota's Legislature is grappling with making initial changes to the state's science standards. Four members of the science standard writing committee have submitted a "minority" report, urging the Legislature to accept two standards that mirror Ohio's.

These two standards will lay the groundwork for Minnesota's schoolchildren to be taught critical analysis of evolution — which has been specifically encouraged by the No Child Left Behind Act conference report.

But first, the "minority report" must be accepted into the recommendations to be sent to the full House and Senate.

Those who support a balanced presentation of Darwinism, the evidence for and against macroevolution, must make their voices heard. The type of science education Ohio and Minnesota's kids receive is dependent on board members and legislators knowing concerned citizens care about the unbiased teaching of evolution.

TAKE ACTION

Ohio

Please contact the board members who voted in favor of the "Set A" curriculum to thank them for their support and encourage them to vote in favor of "Set A" on Mar. 8 or 9. Please contact them by March 5.

Richard E. Baker (Hollansburg), 937-548-2246

Virgil E. Brown, Jr. (Cleveland Heights), 216-851-3304, Virgil.Brown@ode.state.oh.us

Michael Cochran (Blacklick), 614-864-2338, ota@ohiotownships.org

Jim Craig (Canton), 330-492-5533, Jim.Craig@ode.state.oh.us

John W. Griffin (West Carrollton), P.O. Box 49201, West Carrollton, OH 45449-0201

Stephen M. Millett (Columbus), 614-424-5335

Deborah Owens Fink (Richfield), 330-972-8079, deb@uakron.edu

Emerson J. Ross, Jr. (Toledo), 419-248-8315

Jennifer L. Sheets (Pomeroy), 740-992-2151, Jennifer.Sheets@ode.state.oh.us

Jo Ann Thatcher (McDermott), 740-858-3300

James L. Turner (Cincinatti), 513-287-3232, jturner@cinergy.com

Sue Westendorf (Bowling Green), 419-352-2908, sue.westendo@ode.state.oh.us

Carl Wick (Centerville), 937-433-1352, carl.wick@ode.state.oh.us

Please politely urge the four board members who voted against "Set A" to reconsider and vote in support. Please contact them by Mar. 5.

Robin C. Hovis (Millersburg), 330-674-5000, Robin.Hovis@ode.state.oh.us

Cyrus B. Richardson, Jr. (Bethel), 513-734-6700, Cyrus.Richards@ode.state.oh.us

G.R. "Sam" Schloemer (Cincinnati), 513-821-4145, Sam.Schloemer@ode.state.oh.us

Jennifer Stewart (Zanesville), 740-452-4558, Jennifer.Stewart@ode.state.oh.us

Two members were absent for the Feb. 10 meeting, and should be politely contacted as well.

Virginia E. Jacobs (Lima), 419-999-4219, Virginia.Jacobs@ode.state.oh.us

Martha W. Wise (Avon) 440-934-4935, Martha.Wise@doe.state.oh.us

In addition, please contact Gov. Bob Taft and tell him you support the teaching of critical analysis of evolution. For contact information for Gov. Taft, visit our CitizenLink Action Center.

Minnesota

Please contact the chairpersons of the House and Senate Education Policy Committees, Rep. Barbara Sykora and Sen. Steve Kelley, and urge them to accept the "minority report."

In addition, please contact your own representative and senator and politely urge them to support the critical analysis of evolution when it comes to a vote.

Also, please contact Gov. Tim Pawlenty and urge his support for teaching the evidence for and against evolution. Contact information for Gov. Pawlenty is available through our CitizenLink Action Center.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Minnesota; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; crevolist; darwinism; education; educationnews; evolution; god; minnesota; mn; oh; ohio; science; scienceeducation
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To: Fester Chugabrew
What good has the Theory of Evolution done that any Creation viewpoint could not also support?

Antibiotic resistance.

Or do you think facts are just facts and have no need of being interpreted and applied?

Why do you insist that a scientific theory must have beneficial applications? The purpose of scientific theories is to offer an explanation for observed phenomena within the natural universe. If good can come of the theory, then so be it, but there is no requirement that a theory have some "beneficial application", only that it be the best explanation for the given evidence.
281 posted on 02/29/2004 3:09:56 PM PST by Dimensio (I gave you LIFE! I -- AAAAAAAAH!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Why not just answer my question:

I will not give your question undeserved credibility by debating it.

The relevance to society of scientific and mathematical theories such a Relativity, Evolution, String, and Phlogiston have absolutely nothing to do with their scientific validity.

You do not understand this and you never will. You brain is not capable of separating rational facts from gut emotions.

282 posted on 02/29/2004 4:19:51 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Celantro
Can you SEE gravity?

Look at this way.

The creationist accept gravity not because gravity is logical but because when the apple hits their head it hurts. Pain evokes emotion. Emotion is something they can deal with.

283 posted on 02/29/2004 4:28:11 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Jeff Gordon; Dimensio
What good has the Theory of Evolution done that any Creation viewpoint could not also support?

The same guy -- Fester Chugabrew -- asked the same question in a different thread and he was answered: at post 30. I've given another answer in that same thread to yet another creationist: at post 273.

You are witnessing a creationist technique we've termed "aggressive amnesia."

284 posted on 02/29/2004 4:40:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: Dimensio
Why do you insist that a scientific theory must have beneficial applications?

Well, you see, he cannot discount the Theory of Evolution on factual grounds, so he takes the stance, "yeah, well, it doesn't have a practical benefit so we shouldn't be teaching it to the kids."

285 posted on 02/29/2004 4:53:26 PM PST by Junior (No animals were harmed in the making of this post)
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To: Jeff Gordon
The relevance to society of scientific and mathematical theories such a Relativity, Evolution, String, and Phlogiston have absolutely nothing to do with their scientific validity.

Fine. I hope you don't mind if some of us have a good snicker while you doggedly defend a theory that you believe to has no relevance to mankind. Not sure why you brought all those other theories in there, though, since they have little or nothing to do with this thread.

286 posted on 02/29/2004 4:54:48 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: PatrickHenry; Jeff Gordon; Dimensio; ohioWfan
. . . he was answered: at post 30.

That was no answer at all. The Biotech industry is not giving us benefits due solely to the Theory of Evolution. The article you linked does not even mention it. Do you really think everyone in the biotech industry subscribes to the Theory of Evoluton?

287 posted on 02/29/2004 4:58:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: PatrickHenry
You are witnessing a creationist technique we've termed "aggressive amnesia."

I think you are giving them too much credit. Aggressive amnesia would imply that they know what they are doing. I do not believe that they are capable of knowing anything other than that which is filtered through their emotions.

God will forgive them for they know not what they do.

288 posted on 02/29/2004 4:58:42 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I hope you don't mind if some of us have a good snicker

I don't mind at all. One does not get upset when three year old kids make potty jokes. One just understands that three year old kids have not reached the age of reason.

289 posted on 02/29/2004 5:02:02 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The Biotech industry is not giving us benefits due solely to the Theory of Evolution.

The computer industry is not giving us benefits due solely to the Theory of Electricity either. Your point? BTW, there are two current threads dealing with the practical use of evolution. Of course, since you blank out between threads (or maybe "compartmentalize") you probably already know that but choose to ignore it.

290 posted on 02/29/2004 5:05:19 PM PST by Junior (No animals were harmed in the making of this post)
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To: Junior
The computer industry is not giving us benefits due solely to the Theory of Electricity either.

Well, you can't run a computer without electricity, but you can live life to it's fullest without the slightest notions about evolution. You dig?

291 posted on 02/29/2004 5:10:45 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Jeff Gordon
One just understands that three year old kids have not reached the age of reason.

And that is precisely why Darwinism will continue to face scrutiny in Ohio and Minnesota. Because it's defenders are like three year old kids who cannot face truth.

292 posted on 02/29/2004 5:14:33 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Well, you can't run a computer without electricity, but you can live life to it's fullest without the slightest notions about evolution. You dig?

And you could live life to its fullest without using a computer.

Bait and switch, and not even an attempt to disguise it.
293 posted on 02/29/2004 5:28:15 PM PST by Dimensio (I gave you LIFE! I -- AAAAAAAAH!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You can live life to its fullest without the slightest notion of Relativity. Are you trying to promote ignorance?
294 posted on 02/29/2004 5:36:53 PM PST by Junior (No animals were harmed in the making of this post)
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To: Junior
You can live life to its fullest without the slightest notion of Relativity.

I forgot about that. Thanks for letting me know. Are you trying to promote enlightenment?

295 posted on 02/29/2004 5:47:43 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Dimensio
Bait and switch, and not even an attempt to disguise it.

I'm sorry. Who was it that brought up the subject of electricity?

296 posted on 02/29/2004 5:51:23 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
And that is precisely why Darwinism will continue to face scrutiny in Ohio and Minnesota.

Whenever you see Evolution Theory called Darwinism, you know that there is a Crevo Crapper around.

Thus we come full circle back to my original post on this thread. LOL

297 posted on 02/29/2004 6:26:24 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Thus we come full circle . . .

Yeah. Whatever. I didn't write the title for this thread. Feel free to puff yourself up with your inspired triumph over emotion.

298 posted on 02/29/2004 6:31:25 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Who was it that brought up the subject of electricity?

Urgh. In the event that you're just incredibly dense rather than, as it appears, evasively dishonest, I'll explain the fallacy involved in your rebuttal.

It was explained that computers are a result of more than electrical theory, in response to your claim that Biotech firms don't benefit solely from the Theory of Evolution. In other words, you were attacking evolution because it is not the sole provider of benefit for biotech firms.

You apparently couldn't stand that Junior had effectively pointed out an analagous situation -- evolution isn't the sole source of benefit for biotech as electrical theory isn't the sole source of benefit for computers -- so you changed the subject by throwing up an apples and oranges comparison. Ignoring the validity of Junior's comparison, you claimed that computers wouldn't be possible without electrical theory (true, but totally irrelevant) and that we could live fulfilled lives without the ToE. Your comparison was illogical (comparing one theory to the fruit of another, which is a faulty comparison because they're different types of objects), an evasion of the original point (that a single theory isn't the foundation for an industry, even if that theory is useful for that theory) and ultimately meaningless, because people can and do live fulfilled lives without knowledge of electrical theory.
299 posted on 02/29/2004 6:44:14 PM PST by Dimensio (I gave you LIFE! I -- AAAAAAAAH!)
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To: Dimensio
Urgh. You didn't answer my question.
Urgh. You are bringing nothing to light with all your words.
Urgh. The whole world can do just fine without the Theory of Evolution.
300 posted on 02/29/2004 6:53:55 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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