Police: Homeowner Didn't Have To Use Deadly Force

NBC5 Internet ^ | January 14, 2004 | Staff

[tberry]

Police: Homeowner Didn't Have To Use Deadly Force Shooter Says 2 Men Tried To Rob Him

POSTED: 9:54 AM CST January 13, 2004 UPDATED: 5:49 PM CST January 14, 2004

GRAND PRAIRIE, Texas -- Police now say they think a shooter in Grand Prairie did not have to use deadly force.

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Homeowner Fatally Shoots Men

SURVEY A Grand Prairie homeowner, with a concealed handgun license, says two men stormed his home and forced him to withdraw cash. He says he felt his life was in danger before he fatally shot them. Should he have been arrested on capital murder charges?

Yes, the shooting was not justified No, the shooting was justified Unsure

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Foyil Edward Deal, 63, says two men stormed his home and forced him to withdraw cash from an ATM Tuesday morning.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live Vote Should Homeowner Be Charged With Capital Murder? Discussion: Was Man Justified? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On the drive home, Deal, who has a concealed handgun license, says he pulled out a pistol from his pocket and shot Wesley Lewis Duncan, 40, and Wylie Bailey Casey, 35, in the head.

"They may have known about him, may have known he had monies," Detective John Brimmer (pictured, left) said.

Deal is in the Dallas County Jail after a judge set bond at $750,000.

A grand jury will hear the case to decide if there is enough evidence to prosecute the case.

Consuelo Mendoza is standing by her neighbor's story.

"I can only tell you that people have been coming in and out of there that we don't know, that is not normal for him," he said.

"For him to have done this, he would have been extremely threatened," he said.

Duncan had a lengthy criminal record that included burglary charges.

[tberry]

Let's Hear It!! What is your opinion???

[Eala]

There ought to be no question about this...

[RoughDobermann]

These two dead idiots "didn't have to" rob this guy either, did they?

[pgkdan]

Questions worded funny. You have to vote "NO" to vote that the shooting was justified.

[Billthedrill]

I would certainly estimate that the situation as described seemed life-threatening, hence a case of self-defense would seem justified. The problem is that burglary "charge" - if there's a felony conviction he isn't allowed to legally possess a firearm at all, whether his use of it in this case is justified or not.

Personally the worst thing I'd charge him with is littering.

[Quick Shot]

86 to 6 for the right thing to do...

[Frank_Discussion]

One of the perps had a record, not the homeowner, if I read it correctly.

[petro45acp]

The appropriate response in any case of self defense should be "I was in fear for my life (my wife's life) so I shot him/them."

details of the incident should include phrases (where applicable):

He/they threatened with a weapon
They threatened force
there were two of them
They broke in

The upside is they were both DRT (dead right there).

God's speed to the courageous homeowner!

Pete

[Quick Shot]

The burgulary charge is for the guy at room temp.

[SouthernFreebird]

Well at least the poll takers have it right, mostly.

[DB]

Well from the limited information in this article I say good riddance to the preps and give the guy a medal.

I find it interesting that in Texas you can shot through your front door when someone is banging on it and kill the banger without any problem, but shoot two guys that have kidnapped you and forced you to withdraw money it is not okay… A bit odd…

[Slings and Arrows]

If I gave I my uncensored opinion I'd get banned. These evolutionary reverts invade a man's home, kidnap him, and rob him, and some bullying bureaucrat Monday-morning quarterbacking goon says deadly force wasn't justified? I hope the victim emptied his weapon into the goblins, reloaded, emptied it again, and then urinated on their stinking corpses.

Next question?

[Bigg Red]

Sounds like a good move to me. Often these victims are found dead in the trunk of their own cars.

I am curious about this, though.

On the drive home, Deal, who has a concealed handgun license, says he pulled out a pistol from his pocket and shot Wesley Lewis Duncan, 40, and Wylie Bailey Casey, 35, in the head.

Who was driving? How did he manage this?

[DB]

They already kidnapped him by forcing him to an ATM. That's enough right there for deadly force.

[Seruzawa]

A 63 year old man is assaulted by two much younger men.

A no-brainer. They could probably easily kill him, even barehanded.

The prosecutor should be investigated for criminal connections. Who else but a criminal personality would attack an innocent citizen on the behalf of other criminals?

It's not a long step from burglars to politicians. Burglars usually have more scruples than politicians, anyhow. This is the real motivation behind gun control. Gun controllers have criminal tendencies.

[Smile-n-Win]

Yes, the shooting was not justified 290 6%
No, the shooting was justified 3962 86%
Unsure 336 7%

[sinkspur]

There has been speculation in the local press that Deal did, in fact, know these two and that they were coming to collect a drug debt.

[demlosers]

Let's Hear It!! What is your opinion???

Don't know wasn't there. Not enough to form an objective opinion.

[Jinjelsnaps]

If I gave I my uncensored opinion I'd get banned. These evolutionary reverts invade a man's home, kidnap him, and rob him, and some bullying bureaucrat Monday-morning quarterbacking goon says deadly force wasn't justified? I hope the victim emptied his weapon into the goblins, reloaded, emptied it again, and then urinated on their stinking corpses.

Next question?

Can I get an "AMEN?!" ;-)

[MD_Willington_1976]

A man old enough to be my grandfather was kidnapped and forced to withdraw money from an ATM by 2 younger and presumably stronger and more agile men, one of them previously convicted of robbery...Hell ya he was justified to terminate those scumbags.

Just saving the taxpayers some money, takes the dead guys corpses to the rendering plant and be done with it.

There are no real deterents to crime anymore with all the pandering socialogists/psychologists that think bad people can be changed...

Hey get a clue..

I call it "The Game" the perps babble back the PC headshrink mumbo jumbo and then they are pardened as "Rehabilitated"...Please...what a joke!

Bottom line, termination was fully justified in my opinion.

Later

MD