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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)
Various | December 4, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 12/04/2003 3:31:09 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 11)
Link back to thread 10 (Nov. 24-30)


Contained in Thread 10:

Who can be a guardian, 1993 letter from Bob Schindler to Michael Schiavo, Palm beach Post editorial and FReeper response, T'wit's song about Schiavo and Felos, transcript of Lee Webb's (CBN) interview with Kate Adamson, partial timeline of Terri's case, the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro and the report on Terri's birthday party,


Click on pic for Terri's website


This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

You will notice that this thread is not specifically dated. That is because we are just going to keep this one going until we have need of another one.

A reminder: please do not post personal information on the public forum. We have lots of folks on scene down in Florida and we don't want them having any problems with the death squad.



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Good letter Star. Thanks for sharing.
21 posted on 12/04/2003 6:24:08 PM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt)
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That is excellent! Very well said.
22 posted on 12/04/2003 6:38:47 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schindler Schiavo)
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To: sweetliberty
Proposal Would Help Terri, Make it Difficult to Remove Feeding Tubes
23 posted on 12/04/2003 6:50:44 PM PST by nickcarraway (
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Good job.

I also think we citizens need to direct those powers of controll over the judicial branch that we do still have.
Vote against retention of every judge, everytime the opportunity presents itself.This needs to be done for at least three election cycles.
Is every judge corrupt? No.
Is the current legal system corrupted? Yes.
We have to assume our own duty to correct it.We are the enablers of our own government!
Dont attempt to avoid jury duty merely because it is "inconvenient".
The true meaning of our system of government re checks and balances, also includes the voting power of the citizens.
Use it.
Purge the legal system to the extent we can, everywhere.

24 posted on 12/04/2003 7:14:58 PM PST by sarasmom (Message to the DOD : Very good , troops.Carry on. IN MY NAME)
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To: wisconsinconservative
ping to self for later
25 posted on 12/04/2003 7:19:03 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: sarasmom
Absolutely!!!! I asked about a month ago to get the names listed of liberal judges up for re-election so I can burn them into my brain. We will be armed well this time ... that's a certainty.
26 posted on 12/04/2003 7:25:10 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: sweetliberty
>> A wise voice pierces bitter chaos of the Schiavo case

A lying voice twists the facts again.

27 posted on 12/04/2003 7:31:18 PM PST by T'wit
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To: sweetliberty
"has been in a "persistent vegetative state" since her brain was deprived of oxygen during a heart attack 13 years ago"

They're still perpetuating the lies, I see.

Just disgusting, isn't it? Thanks for the ping!

28 posted on 12/04/2003 7:32:30 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: STARWISE; nickcarraway; 4integrity; cyn; pc93; pollywog; NautiNurse; I still care; ...
I just wrote in support of Wise's Bill to Sen. King & the entire FL Senate!

Urge others to do so ASAP.
29 posted on 12/04/2003 8:49:33 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
30 posted on 12/04/2003 9:01:22 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit
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It is impossible to meaningfully "judge" the judges, except in the most aggregious cases of incompetance.The only frame of reference are groups of other lawyers, with vested interests in maintaining a corrupt system.
Not exactly a respected, neutral, trustworthy group of people to base our votes on.
Vote no, on all of them.
Force the legal system to deal with Law, truth, and justice as inseparable concepts.
31 posted on 12/04/2003 9:33:05 PM PST by sarasmom (Message to the DOD : Very good , troops.Carry on. IN MY NAME)
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To: sweetliberty; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; tutstar; Canticle_of_Deborah; JulieRNR21; ...
Friends of Terri - be sure to read terrasol's post on the previous daily thread at post 431.

The former PVS patient who was almost killed, but later recovered, Rus Cooper-Dowda, is being FIRED for speaking favorably of Terri outside of a work setting, and on her own time!

... a MUST read!

Then don't forget to freep our big guns at FoxNews!

Here's another good re-read from earlier this year...
Rus Cooper-Dowda's reporting of a VERY BIASED court hearing to determine Terri's condition...
here's a sample...
The family attorney explained that the lower court judge used a scorecard for response that stacked the deck no matter how Terri responded. If she always responded -- it was just primitive brain stem activity. If she randomly responded -- it was not repetitive enough. If it wasn't as fast as the demander wanted -- then, hey, she was "too" disabled.

About this time the judge asked for an assurance that Terri could be restored by treatment before treatment was tried. He wanted to know the probability of function restoration for Terri the way people want guaranteed winning odds from their bookies before they bet any money on the Superbowl.

Ms. Anderson gently pointed out that medicine and life didn't work that way. She asked what harm there would be in a trial period of full therapies before deciding such therapies wouldn't work.'ll never believe the judges reply!...

Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign
      "Where there's life, there's hope."
      -Terri Schiavo ( arguing with her best friend Diane Meyer ) angrily PROMOTING LIFE FOR the comatose
-Kate Adamson ( former vegetative patient nearly starved to death ) "Its VERY painful... Its SHEER torture!"

-Michael Schiavo (teaching Terri she can NEVER DIVORCE him) minutes before her 'collapse'
-Michael's 1993 girlfriend ("he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!")
-link to latest TV coverage/interviews           Contact FoxNews

32 posted on 12/04/2003 10:27:28 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: All
Contact Info: - Hannity & Colmes - Sean Hannity -On the Record with Greta - Greta Van Susteren - At Large with Geraldo Rivera general FoxNews forum - Thank them for having the best Terri Schiavo coverage of any news channel! - The O'Reilly Factor - Bill O'Reilly
(Bill used to parrot CNN with drivel from the husband)
(he's 'possibly' a little more 'pro-Terri' now?-)

33 posted on 12/04/2003 10:28:38 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: sweetliberty; All
Post 1 links to the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro.

BUT BEWARE all freepers, THAT story is almost CERTAINLY a cruel HOAX designed to ridicule Terri and Dr.Hammesfahr!

See post 378 /other thread

34 posted on 12/05/2003 12:43:09 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
I don't know whether it's a hoax but the author (Ron Laytner) first wrote about her in 1998. Google his name and you can find it. The page hasn't been updated since 1999.
35 posted on 12/05/2003 3:50:35 AM PST by isrul
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To: sweetliberty
Update, Pinellas County Courthouse filings (notice another Motion for Protective Order has been filed by Felos....this is most likely in response to Bush's "Request for Production" (I assume, of documents...perhaps medical records, and, perhaps, other information):

Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
522003CA008212XXCICI 03008212CI 020 DECLARATORY CI
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
10/21/03 11/14/03      


10 Docket Entries, 12/04/03 to 12/02/03
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

36 posted on 12/05/2003 4:22:42 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Jeb Bush also served upon Felos "interrogatories" (interrogatories are questions. The Defendant always has the right to ask the plaintiff specific questions; they are limited in number, and the number may vary according to the state. In Colorado, I believe the number was 50, but I have forgotten). Felos may not answer them all....he may claim that they "are not likely to lead to admissible evidence." Then Bush would have to file a Motion to Compel, asking the Judge to force Felos to have HINO answer them....the judge makes the decision as to whether or not HINO would have to answer a particular question.

Bush also appears to have subpoenaed records from the Sun Coast hospice....Felos may have issued the Motion for Protective Order for that, as well, saying that they shouldn't have to supply any documentation to Bush, for the same reason "not likely to lead to admissible evidence." Another Motion to Compel might follow that, too, and then Felos' objection to it....which then puts the judge back into deciding if evidence must be given to Bush.

As you can see, Greer can do many things in this case to help Felos. And Greer is more likely than not to make sure that anything he does will be to help out Felos.....the other thing is: things that are within Greer's "discretion" cannot be appealed.

The only thing that Bush can appeal concerning Greer is if Greer errs on "matters of law"......otherwise, it's all "discretionary." We already know what Greer's discretion is.
37 posted on 12/05/2003 4:35:13 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Now that is REALLY Good news! Felos and HINO, your time is gonna come! :)
38 posted on 12/05/2003 6:10:12 AM PST by msmagoo
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Outstanding letter. Glad you addressed King personally
39 posted on 12/05/2003 6:23:01 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: msmagoo; nicmarlo
Sounds to me more like the fix is in if Bush can't get rid of Greer and Baird.
40 posted on 12/05/2003 6:27:15 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt)
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