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Pregnant woman shot over cigarette (The Hate has GOT to STOP)
The Times-Picayune ^ | 5 October 2002 | Michael Perlstein

Posted on 10/06/2002 7:48:41 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 07/14/2004 12:59:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Most people cringe at the sight of a pregnant woman smoking. Some people feel strongly enough to say something in protest. But one local man took matters into his own hands early Friday when, according to police, he shot an expectant mother who refused to put out her cigarette.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: ladyinred
Really? I guess I haven't seen too many pro choices here. Perhaps I avoid them like the plague without even knowing it? I am pro life, always have been, always will be and not ashamed to say so!

you rock!

181 posted on 10/06/2002 11:57:07 AM PDT by ALS
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To: Pinche Naco
Typical - the length of time someone is a member of FR has something to do with the validity of their comments?
...
If I have the righ to bear arms, then I have the right to own a nuclear bomb - if you say no, then you are for gun control.

Plenty of absolutes with you, aren't there? On your first point, the length of time issue -- in many cases, with brand new users who make what are percieved to be "off the cuff" statements, the natural assumption is that they are from...let's say "elsewhere" with the sole desire of causing a ruckus on FR.

And with your second point, stop being silly. Certainly there are some potential limits with the "type" of weapon one should be able to own. I got no business with a nuclear warhead. But you, nor anyone else should be able to tell me whether or not I should be able to own an "assault" weapon - therein lies your point, of course. If I decide, as a collector, to purchase such a weapon, then it's my business. You want to know about it? No problem. But that's a different issue completely.

And to get to the crux of that part of the problem, how do you define "assault weapon?"

182 posted on 10/06/2002 11:58:16 AM PDT by mhking
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To: waterstraat
Women kill a million of them each year since Roe vs. Wade and get off scott free.

And this makes attacking pregnant women who happen to smoke OK in your book????

183 posted on 10/06/2002 11:58:21 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Cvengr
By any chance, did she name the little tyke, 'Damien'?

Excuse me? What does that have to do with anything?

184 posted on 10/06/2002 11:59:33 AM PDT by mhking
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To: SheLion
Shane was stomped to death by a 15 year old boy who THOUGHT that Shane had given cigarettes to his brother! Not Mustard Gas. Not a bomb. But "cigarettes!"

Yes, I know that's the story, but I have recently become aware that violent crimes that seem utterly incomprehensible are often black on white hate crimes that the press masks as just "random crime" by concealing the races of the victim and the attacker. So, at the risk of sounding like a budding KKK-er... was the 15 year old boy black?

185 posted on 10/06/2002 12:00:09 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Pinche Naco
I am sure the pro-gun lobby was more concerned...

You sound more like a gun-grabber than anything else, yes?

186 posted on 10/06/2002 12:00:40 PM PDT by mhking
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To: waterstraat
Allowing women to smoke has caused a myriad of problems, both healthwise, and otherwise.

You are living in the wrong century if you really believe this justifies the attack of this woman.

Regardless of whether you approve of smoking or not, there is absolutely no justification for what happened here. Do not use your dislike of an adult's choices to justify your own prejudices, if that is what you are expressing here.

187 posted on 10/06/2002 12:01:35 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz; LionelHutz
Looks like there are quite a few lone nutbags out there
188 posted on 10/06/2002 12:01:39 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Pinche Naco
figured you would be a white guy

That one was out of line, fella.

189 posted on 10/06/2002 12:02:09 PM PDT by mhking
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To: AnnaZ
yours echoes a couple others,
and makes the backbreaking labor of googlesearches worth every minute !


190 posted on 10/06/2002 12:03:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Pinche Naco
I have several guns also, just not a member of that particular, sad, organization.

Glad to see you Libs own guns also...

191 posted on 10/06/2002 12:03:10 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Pinche Naco
The facts are out there - when they find this guy doing the shooting in MD, VA and DC - he will be an angry white guy who got fired from his job and was probably getting a divorce from his wife and got tired of paying his NRA dues. That's all.

And you base this assessment on...??

192 posted on 10/06/2002 12:04:17 PM PDT by mhking
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To: AnnaZ
Actually, smoking only is proven to affect birth weight (which, if you're a pregnant woman with a low pain threshold... ;^) The effect on birth weight is also negligible post-partum.

You're correct - and the "lower" birth-weight numbers are actually measured in grams, not even ounces.

I was thrilled with my 5lb14oz "low birth weight" baby - water broke at 4:55 I was holding her at 5:41- no pain meds no nothing.

193 posted on 10/06/2002 12:09:14 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: SheLion
But what about the 2nd hand smoke from the gun? Didn't he think about that? Oh jeez, I'd better stop about the gun. Someone from DU might pick up on it...
194 posted on 10/06/2002 12:09:14 PM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Madame Dufarge
Personally, I don't care if your wife goes bungee jumping while she's pregnant; it's her choice.

Let's just follow this logic. A woman can do whatever she wants, even if it endangers her unborn. If that results in harm or even death to that child, that's that woman's business and no one elses. Am I reading you correctly?

If you want to amend your comment to say that you believe that the behavior is OK because it is not putting the unborn child at risk, then feel free to do so. But I think that arguing that a woman can do whatever she wants with the fetus inside of her is going to be very unpopular around these parts.

195 posted on 10/06/2002 12:13:30 PM PDT by LionelHutz
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To: Pinche Naco; mhking
Glad to see you Libs own guns also...

me too.
oneo'thesedays, come cw2, shootin' armed socialists will be both tactically wise and rich in irony ...


196 posted on 10/06/2002 12:14:05 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: A_perfect_lady
So, at the risk of sounding like a budding KKK-er... was the 15 year old boy black?

Any of (rare) press reports I read made no mention of race and therefore I am inclined to think that both children were white, as the victim was white.

The teachings to children by the anti-smoker organizations actually make the KKK look less than menacing.

They are taught total disrespect of adults who choose to smoke - they are actually being taught that it is perfectly alright to walk up to perfect strangers and call them evil and tell them they are killing children.

I have actually had children confront me on the street and call me a murderer because I have a cigarette.

I year or so ago I grabbed a toddleer who had gotten away from him mother and darted into the street - did the woman thank me for snatching the child and returning him to her safely, NO - I got a ration of manure because I had a lit cigarette when I grabbed him.

Anti-smokers are the KKK of the 21st century.

197 posted on 10/06/2002 12:20:58 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: All
At underground hardcore and metal concerts, a group of people call "straigh edgers" who brush up on neo-nazism go around and beat up anyone who smokes or drinks beer. A few years ago i went to see my friends band play and someone got a brick thrown at their head and had to be rushed to the hospital. I put my cigarette out when i found out it was because he was smoking.
198 posted on 10/06/2002 12:26:10 PM PDT by chudogg
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To: LionelHutz
Am I reading you correctly?

Get real, will you?

I'm advocating freedom from busybodies, not doing harm to the unborn.

199 posted on 10/06/2002 12:26:45 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Aren't they lovely?????

I'm one of the smokers being attacked in many of those posts - particularly the ones from the Yahoo and iWon boards.

200 posted on 10/06/2002 12:32:27 PM PDT by Gabz
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