[SheLion]

"The debate is clearly not about health as it is about social engineering to denormalize smoking."

They can denormalize smoking all they want. They won't be getting our money!

[SheLion]

[Great Dane]

Johnson said he was told that the Australian smoking ban caused a sharp decrease in casino revenue initially but that business is beginning to recover.

This is the song we hear from all the fanatics, but it is a lie.

[AzJP]

Las Vegas will always have pockets of the old style, but the big money is now family recreation resorts and business retreats........health spas and all.

Sammy and Frank are gone. The last time I was there the families on expense accounts outnumbered the hardcore.

Amazing to me was a baccarat table, high stakes, and NO SMOKING!!!!!

Meanwhile, on the edges of town, rooms full of chain smokers tugging away at the quarter slots.

Siegfried and Roy are in a nonsmoke room, and they need trucks to haul away their money!

Changes.

[Lanza]

Didn't someone open a nonsmoking casino in Vegas in the late 90's and it tanked? Does anyone remember? I love LV, and I like to smoke when I gamble. A doctor from LA bummed a smoke off me while there once. He said he had to come to LV to smoke, because it is so politically incorrect in LA.

[DonQ]

Do we really believe that if people can't smoke then they won't go to casinos? It might be a good idea if stopping the smoking means that people will stop frittering away their rent money. But what will really happen is that people will pour money into the casino for maybe an hour, and then go outside for smoke, and possibly stop throwing their money away.

[muir_redwoods]

Say what you want but it is undeniable that casinos stink, literally. I've been to Las Vegas and I once worked for a tribe that owns the biggest casino in the world. Casinos stink. Smoke is only bearable if you are a smoker and fewer and fewer people are.

Enjoy your tobacco but understand that the majority defines the norm. If fewer people are smoking, people who cater to crowds will adjust. Change is constant

[dogbyte12]

Curious about the fact that smokers are two times as likely to gamble in casinos. Is that a sociological study waiting to happen? If ya gamble that you won't get the big C, throwing a few grand down on the craps table isn't much of a stretch for ya either.

[Ajnin]

I just returned from Vegas a few days ago. I couldn't believe all the illegal aliens that have infested the strip. The last time I was there 10 years ago I didn't see any illegal aliens. Now, they are on every block . They loiter in large and small groups harassing tourists in an effort to pawn off pornography. It's too bad Yuma Sector lost the Border Patrol station in Bullhead city.

[MadisonA]

I don't think the casinos are going to shut down just because some people can't go without a ciggie. People still go out to restaurants and they have a cig outside afterward. What's the big deal? I think anyone who can't wait one hour or two for a cigarette is totally unreasonable and probably has a problem. Any kind of smoke should be kept outside IMO. Even the smoke created in a kitchen needs proper ventilation and and fans directly overhead.

I was playing a slot and this woman sits right next to me blowing smoke on my brand new sweater. The cloud was so bad and thick I could hardly breathe. It was terrible and I had to stop playing and move. That is totally inconsiderate and unreasonable that people have to breath smoke indoors. If I wanted to breath in smoke I would build a campfire and stay home.

[Ken H]

Just where the hell does ASHRAE get off setting national standards in what should be a private matter?

Why not let private businesses decide smoking policies on their own property?

[E Rocc]

Once again, the Health Nazis are proving that their agenda is not really about employee safety but about telling people what to do For Their Own Good. They prove this by ignoring the concept of PEL (Permissable Exposure Limit).

PEL is the basis of OSHA's workplace chemical exposure standards. Trying to appeal to the concept of employee safety while ignoring it is like trying to discuss chemistry with mentioning pH, physics without mentioning inertia, Christianity without mentioning Jesus, or political corruption without mentioning the Democratic Party.

-Eric

[Bella_Bru]

I'm willing to bet this new round of shit was brought on by the idiots that bring their kids to Vegas and want it to be even more safe and Disney-fied for them.

[Minutemen]

Too bad for the casinos. They might have to invent an honest and legit way of generating dollars without taking advantage of suckers' vices.

[Protagoras]

The debate will now begin about whether smoking is bad or whether business will suffer or not. All those arguments are irrelevant.

The question is one of property rights, pure and simple. Any debate on other issues concedes those rights IMO.

[RikaStrom]

If Las Vegas goes Smoke Free then I will be finding another location for my annual "let my hair down" trip.

[maxwell]

"The debate is clearly not about health as it is about social engineering to denormalize smoking."

Hey chickie... Bump for Free-Smoke-America... Funny what bandwagons folks get onto every so often. Don't people have anything better to do with their lives than run around trying to conform everybody else to some arbitrary "standard of living"? Geezus. Some people need to GET OVER THEMSELVES...

[Mr. Mojo]

Good.....their are few things I despise more than sitting at the blackjack table while some 50-something multipule divorcee hag with rotting teeth, $5 dollar perfume, death breath, and a voice that's two octaves lower than it should be blows Marlboro after Marlboro in my face.

[waterstraat]

The people in Las Vegas are not stupid enough to stop smoking in casinos.

[A CA Guy]

Makes sense that more than 50% of gamblers would be smokers, they both involve risk taking.

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