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No Founding Fathers? That's our new history.
The Washington Times ^ | January 28, 2002 | Ellen Sorokin

Posted on 01/28/2002 4:33:56 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Pilgrims and the Mayflower also are excluded, as well as the word "war," which has been replaced with "conflict" in lessons about the early settlers, colonization and expansion.

Also gone are most references to the inhumane treatment many American soldiers endured in wars overseas during the 20th century. However, the standards specifically note that students should identify slavery, the Holocaust and modern Iraq as examples "in which people have behaved in cruel and inhumane ways."


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To: Jefferson Adams
BUMP!
61 posted on 01/28/2002 9:32:59 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: JHavard; Havoc; OldReggie; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain;TrueBeliever9...
When the rapture happens no one will miss us because we were never here :>)
64 posted on 01/28/2002 12:35:27 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: xkaydet65
These skills and knowledge go unrewarded in NYC both for the students and the teacher.

Its pretty true here in Ca too. As long as you have lots of evidence of group activity, you classroom looks ok. When I taught, (20 years ago) I was pretty much left alone by the official powers, but I taught math, not much that could be evaluated historically. I did teach a unit on the historical development of geometry, going back to Euclid. I wonder if I would get in trouble for that today?

65 posted on 01/28/2002 12:59:41 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Neither do most New Jersey folks remember that their state was one of the first northern states to vote against blacks citizenship after the Civil War.

The only Senator worth spit in the middle of the 19th Century was Charles Sumner (R). The only Speaker of the House worth remembering from that era was Thaddeus Stevens, (R). How many folks here even have the slightest clue who they were or what they really did for the nation?

I would bet that a majority of elementary teachers in the state of New Jersey do not know this. nor that the infamous Black Code enacted in Louisiana after the war was modeled on that of Illinois. Nor that the KKK of the post WWI period was strongest in the State of Indiana, ETC. Did I say ELEMENTARY?

66 posted on 01/28/2002 1:10:09 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Grand Old Partisan
I demand that Mr. Doolan provide me with all the names of the people who contributed to the writing of these standards; plus, any and all notes from any and all meetings held by the committee that wrote the standards; plus, written minutes of any and all meetings attended by any and all members and contributors to the writing of these standards.
67 posted on 01/28/2002 1:18:49 PM PST by good1
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To: glory
Shaking head and sighing bookmark! ping
68 posted on 01/28/2002 1:56:20 PM PST by glory
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To: Grand Old Partisan
And this is the term paper on the American Revolution you actually wrote last night, after smoking a marijuana cigarette:

"So, uh, a bunch of guys got together and, uh, were all like, uh, we're not doin' anything so, uh, why don't we, uh, like make a country or somethin'?"

69 posted on 01/28/2002 2:11:28 PM PST by Argus
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To: Grand Old Partisan

2 + 2 = 5

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

There I feel better. I love Big Brother.

70 posted on 01/28/2002 2:30:07 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Grand Old Partisan
We are actually doing something about this at

Declaration Foundation

Cheers,

Richard F.

71 posted on 01/28/2002 2:38:08 PM PST by rdf
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To: KC_for_Freedom
They would be branded bigots and racists and fired.
72 posted on 01/28/2002 2:40:46 PM PST by sport
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
The reason the KKK was allegedly disbanded was that it became dangerous to be in it when the Federal government started prosecuting Klansmen for the crimes they committed. That, plus the guidance of it's inspirational star, Robert E. Lee who created for it the concept of the 'Invisible Empire' kept it operating and functional as the muscle of the Southern Democrats. Instead of just assaulting whoever they chose, they now had to be much more careful and not leave witnesses.

LOL!!! That's great!!! That's right down the ol' Party line!! Keep selling it. It's got to be getting harder by now. The northern propaganda has holes big enough in it to drive a truck through

When the war ended, returning Confederate veterans found the South in ruins. A group of six of those veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee, who had shared the terrible experience wanted to make sure they never lost contact. To keep in touch and have some fun with other veterans of similar interests, they decided to form a social club.

After a few meetings and much discussion, the original six and others who joined them decided on a name derived from the Greek word Kuklos, meaning circle. Drawing from their Scotch-Irish heritage, they decided the group would be a clan. To make it easy to remember, particularly for organizing purposes, they created an alliteration of the name, the Ku Klux Klan.

The original Klan was a fun club for Civil War vets. Several researchers and writers agree that had there been a YMCA, VFW Post, or similar organizations in Pulaski, TN in 1865, the Klan might not exist. All the secrecy, costumes, and mysterious initiation rites were intended to add to the college fraternity-like excitement. Club members picked strange sounding names for officers, such as Grand Dragon, Grand Wizard, Grand Cyclops and others.

Bedford Forest only learned of the Klan during its first general meeting in mid-1867 in Nashville. That was when he was elected the Grand Wizard, likely in absentia. The best scholarly research indicates that Forrest was no more than a figurehead for the KKK. No evidence exists that he ever “rode with” the Klan, “led” the Klan, or owned any Klan paraphernalia.

The only written Klan communication known to exist from that period was the message to disband the Klan in 1871, after it became terribly violent. Sent in Forrest’s name, even that message was written and signed by John Watson Morton, Forrest’s former chief artillery officer.

Here

"I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man - to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We may differ in color, but not in sentiments. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief."--Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest

Good ol' abe couldn't have said it better. Matter of fact he WOULDN'T have said anything of the sort

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races -- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."--good ol' honest abe lincoln

73 posted on 01/28/2002 4:02:19 PM PST by billbears
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To: steve50
In the 1860's the republican party was the party of high tariffs on imports, now we are free traders, go figure.

Views on Tariffs cut across Conservative/Liberal lines. But generally the Republicans in the 1860s were the more liberal party, the Democrats the more Conservative. It was not until McKinley in 1896 defeated Bryan, that this changed; and then not really with any steady pattern until Franklin Roosevelt; and even then, not really with a dominant pattern until Reagan.

But New Jersey is really sick. It has apparently bought the Leftwing values of those trying convert the American tradition into a new Socialist revision of history, to fit in nicely with their revision of reality in the other Social Sciences--see Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education. If people do not rise up and fight this school district by school district, they will see New Jersey further left than Massachusetts.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

74 posted on 01/28/2002 4:15:05 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ward Smythe
Thanks for the flag. No one needs to convince me of the importance of history in school curricula. I'm a believer! I've been to Berkeley Plantation, it's an interesting place.

As regards the assertion that Virginia does not include the Plymouth Pilgrims in our Standards of Learning, nothing could be further from the truth. School children begin learning about the Plymouth Pilgrims in the first grade. Whoever made the claim otherwise should be fired, as he is either incompetent or a determined liar -- or both.

75 posted on 01/28/2002 5:30:02 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Thank goodness that people like Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy are promoting values and morals education. I saw him on C-SPAN this morning talking about the evils of communism, espousing property rights and the 1st Amendment.
76 posted on 01/28/2002 5:37:37 PM PST by RamsNo1
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
The only Speaker of the House worth remembering from that era was Thaddeus Stevens, (R). How many folks here even have the slightest clue who they were or what they really did for the nation?
"Stevens was an early and vehement critic of President Andrew Johnson’s Reconstruction policy and eventually became a leader in the effort to impeach the president. An advocate of treating Southern states during Reconstruction as "conquered provinces," Stevens encouraged strong, sweeping action by the federal government to revolutionize the institutions and culture that bolstered white supremacy in the South. The measures he supported included the Fourteenth Amendment and an unsuccessful plan to confiscate plantations and redistribute the land to former slaves."

Sounds like your kinda guy.

77 posted on 01/28/2002 5:55:57 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: xkaydet65
What is it with NY City schools and bulletin boards? In a NY Times forum on education recently, there was mention of bulletin boards and how important they are. Why? NYC schools have so many problems, bulletin boards are the least important thing. Do supervisors think that if their teachers take care of the small things, the big things will take care of themselves?
78 posted on 01/28/2002 6:00:00 PM PST by bettina0
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To: Grand Old Partisan
To steal a nation's future, purloin its past.
79 posted on 01/28/2002 6:12:15 PM PST by IronJack
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To: bettina0
When a visitor comes into a building he has little interest or understanding of actual instruction so the BoE makes bulletin boards the center of attention. This has progressed to supervisors and educrats evaluating instruction by the work hanging in the class. Last year my class was visited by a cohort of NYS educrats.I actually had a pretty good lesson going, my kids were in the process of writing textbook chapters using original source material. My visitors eyes never left the bulletin boards to experience what was happening in the classroom. Since I was a travelling teacher it wasn't even my kid's work.

In the military shined shoes and orderly foot lockers are expected, but no superior ever uses that criteria in large measure, to evaluate the combat efficiency of his troops.Educators seek answers in symbols and rubrics.And in the main they don't want to admit, because most are politically left wing, that James Coleman was on to something 37 years ago.No school can effectively undo the home.

80 posted on 01/28/2002 6:44:29 PM PST by xkaydet65
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