Smoking's giving drinking a bad name

The Newark Star-Ledger ^ | April 01, 2004 | Paul Mulshine

[NJ Freeper]

It's nice to be right every once in a while. Last year, for example, I went to New York City immediately after smoking was banned in bars. I found it an altogether pleasant experience to be able to enjoy a few pints of ale without coming home smelling like I'd just rolled around in a gutter filled with cigarette butts.

[NJ Freeper]

Someone please ping the puff list. I don't know how.

Is this guy a nut or what. Now smokers are psycho and are to blame for alcoholism. For anyone who think's appeasing the smoke nazis will get you anywhere you only need read this article.

BTW, I'm an ex-smoker but fully support smokers and bar owners in there fight against the smoke nazis.

[NJ Freeper]

Ping.

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[what's up]

First he says moderate drinking is good for you. But he uses no similar standard for smoking, merely saying smoking kills you.

Excuse me, but MODERATE smoking is also not a killer. In fact, it is good for some people, relaxing the nerves.

[netmilsmom]

Ping!

(Shelion holds the list)

[Fraulein]

PING

[weegee]

Bars used to sell cigarettes. An investigation needs to be made into the revenue that takes into account the tobacco sales they lost.

Also some smokers may be more anxious and quicker to buy another drink without that smoke in their hands.

Without polling customers, it is hard to come to any conclusion as to why "sales are up". All that is there is obeserved data.

[VermiciousKnid]

NJFreeper:

Done. And thanks for the support.

Regards,

[weegee]

He informed me that 40 percent of the cigarettes sold in America are consumed by people with definable psychological diseases and mental illnesses.

Wait until he sees a profile of the people who self-medicate with illegal recreational drugs.

[Renegade]

I went on a PUB Crawl in Boston the weekend of 3/17/ ( my birthday )My wife and I are ex-smokers and beleive if you got em, smoke em . However, the bars were packed to the gills with waiting lines outside. At one point my wife mentioned that they were non -smoking bars .(can't imagine how I didn't notice ) The no smoking ordinance didn't seem to hinder the population in the bars at all. Scenery was so nice I ran out of beads in no time at all.

[KevinB]

I'm a non-smoker living near Warrenton, VA. There's an Irish pub in Warrenton having great beer and live music that I love. I would be happy to go there a couple of times a week. The problem is that the place is filled with smoke. Every time my wife and I go in my wife winds up with a headache (from smoke, not drinking) and both of us have to send our clothes to the cleaners, which adds about $10 to the bar tab. For those reasons, we have chosen not to go there anymore. I suppose the bar owners need to decide which clientele, smokers or non-smokers, will generate more business.

[Mears]

My idea of heaven would be to be trapped in a room full of smokers,mentally ill or not.(His 40% statistic re: mental illness and smoking is bull****!)

It would be much more fun than hanging out with the white wine and brie crowd.

At least you'd hear lot of laughter,not too much laughter with the PC crowd.

Got to go get in my straight jacket now and have my aide light me a cig.

[Mears]

bump

[Siouxz]

"Studies" say that 80-90% of alcoholics smoke, and that smoking makes drinking more pleasurable and drinking makes smoking more pleasurable?

How about: If you are a person prone to addiction, why wouldn't you have a greater tendency to be addicted to both cigarettes and alcohol?

Duh.

[Ignatius J Reilly]

That is the way it ougth to be. The bar owners decide if they allow smoking. If there is a market for non-smoking bars then open one. This idea of legislating smoking in bars is offensive to any that believe in a free market economy, which I do.

[Gershkies]

I hear ya. I'm allergic to cats, I break out in hives, my eyes itch, and I can't breath good.... thank goodness you can't bring your cat to a bar! ha,ha. But, smoking does the same thing (except the hives part), but somehow it's okay to make non-smoking patrons itchy and scratchy!!

[Mears]

I just read this article for the second time and I'll bet this guy is a bona-fide lush!!!!

He's really defending his right to drink,and also claiming it is healthy.

[microgood]

He informed me that 40 percent of the cigarettes sold in America are consumed by people with definable psychological diseases and mental illnesses.

ROTFL...I did a study which showed that 90 percent of professors who do studies at universities are people with definable psychological diseases and mental illnesses.

[SheLion]

Thanks for the ping. I just got back online. Let me read this more.

[Alberta's Child]

Mulshine's right about Kudlow's argument. How anyone could make smoking a First Amendment issue is beyond me.

But he's dead wrong on just about every other point. Anti-smoking laws should not be passed just because people like Mulshine (and me, BTW) don't like to smell like cigarette smoke when they get home at night. Before New York City passed a single anti-smoking ordinance, Mulshine was perfectly capable of staying away from any bar or restaurant that didn't maintain a smoke-free environment.

His comment about cell phones is exactly what this article is all about. Laws have nothing to do with public safety, protecting the rights of citizens, etc. -- they are supposed to ensure that Paul Mulshine can go through his life without ever being bothered by anything.

He is New Jersey's best, I guess. This state is filled with @ssholes like him.